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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2019, 02:57 
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ChasFox wrote:
Two shortish sessions with Orkan black 1.5mm on my Sauer & Troga black & white blade.

First impressions are that it is definitely not a rubber for standard inverted/spinny short pips technique and quite different from the other Spinlord short/ medium pips and probably more like KO. Pips are narrower and quite wide spaced and vertically arranged. As Soba mentioned above, not that good for counter topspin but very easy to straight blade block with and lift backspin. An excellent weapon against pushers and choppers and long pips.

Quite easy to p!ay with once blade angles etc adjusted but not much disruptive effect. That may come as the sponge and pimples soften up.

Thanks for the review!
Do you consider Keiler suitable for "standard inverted/spinny short pips technique"?
How would you compare the speed of Orkan vs Keiler?


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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2019, 03:47 
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That is probably best served on BH by Degu 1.8mm.

Keiler is more disruptive than Degu but is still more SP than LP in basic stroke technique.. Keiler is a bit faster than Orkan at least when new.

Waran 1.8mm is good on the backhand for dynamic play but hard to block topspin as quite fast.


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PostPosted: 06 Jan 2019, 21:15 
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Hi guys please go to the forum of new medium pips list caracteristics to rate your mp. It is then added to the Summary table so everyone can look at for pips comparaison. Thank you.


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PostPosted: 07 Jan 2019, 00:18 
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Will do once I have been able to evaluate it properly


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Thank you. If you have mps you played with it before you can also do a rating for them.


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PostPosted: 12 Jan 2019, 02:36 
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I'm excited, my sheet of ORKan got here early, so I'll get to try it out at the club tonight! :)
I got the 1.5 mm silver sponge. It does feel pretty soft.

I also got a sheet of Hurricane 2 Neo for the first time, just to try. Holy cow, that smell. Now I know what everybody always talks about.

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PostPosted: 12 Jan 2019, 13:53 
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First session with ORKan is in the books. I'm not sure if in the long term it will be better or worse for my game. It's definitely different from Keiler. In some ways, it acted like a grippy long pip, which made it easy for me to adjust to, coming from OX long pips. Some general impressions on my Defplay Senso:

Speed
Speed is definitely slow, especially compared to Aggressor and KO Pro, but even compared to Keiler I noticed the slower pace right away

Throw
Throw felt very much like Keiler, higher than the Dr Neubauer pips. Combine the slower speed and medium throw, and it made it very easy to control right away, even against very spinny balls or hard hit balls.

Blocking
Passive blocking went back dead and short. Active punch blocking was controllable. Not a lot of deception, you have to win points on dropping the ball short and in uncomfortable places for your opponent.

Pushing
Due to the grip, I had to be very precise against heavy back spin. And it did feel a little springy on pushes. But, since the pips felt like they bent pretty easily, I could vary the spin a bit, which I imagine would be useful for chopping.

Hitting
Hitting was pretty easy, very controllable. You're not going to overpower anybody with this rubber, so you have to make your points off of placement, consistency, and being off speed. Against back spin, I could even use a traditional long pips lifting stroke, something I haven't found other medium pips to be able to do very well.

In summary, I think it would work very well for a defensive player who values being able to take the pace off the ball a lot, with the occasional threat of a well placed hit, knowing that your opponent will likely return it if they see it coming. Definitely not for someone looking to be very aggressive. For the time being, as I'm coming from OX long pips, I might continue to keep it in my rotation of setups I'm testing, as it gives me a controllable option to help learn the medium pips game. I have a tournament next weekend, I may try the ORKan in one event and the Keiler in another to see what suits me the best. In the long term, I think I'd like to work my way up to using the K.O. Pro, I think I could have a really good game with that, but I am not skilled enough with medium pips yet to tame it, especially in a tournament setting.

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PostPosted: 12 Jan 2019, 18:55 
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Very good summary of Orkan playing characteristics that more or less matches my experiences s after 4 sessions.

However due to the lack of pace and disruption I am going back to Keiler or another short to medium pip that I can put more spin on and be more dangerous. Apart from accuracy of placement I found it difficult to be cause my opponents much harm with Orkan and the sponge is bit too springy for blocks and chops near the table.

So as you say probably more suited to someone coming from LP than short pips and is used to using a lot of wrist action to create effect/spin.


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