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PostPosted: 05 Jan 2019, 00:56 
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Blade: Spinlord Ultra carbon DEf
FH: Victas V >15 extra
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Good morning, has anyone played with this blade? Could you comment on it?


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PostPosted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:12 
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It's a copy of the discontinued Joo se hyuk. 5 ply off- medium stiff oversized blade.


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PostPosted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:13 
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No it's not copy of JSH.

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PostPosted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:28 
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Sure looks like the same blade but with a different name. They are advertising it as “better for the plastic ball” just like everyone else.

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 Post subject: butterfly diode v blade
PostPosted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:58 
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Different thickness, different characteristics/specs, looks like thinner, lighter, faster, more vibration than JSH.

both show up at the same page at Butterfly catalog.

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PostPosted: 01 Feb 2019, 20:47 
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Blade: BTY Diode V
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 2,15
BH: TSP Curl P1R 1,0
I got myself one for birthday. After 3 years of playing Defplay and Stratus Powerdefense, I have to concede that this blade is really well made, far superior craftmanship to the previous mentioned. Alas, BTY seems to economize on finish, I had to round all edges and smooth the handle with very fine sanding paper.

- weight: 96g
- flared handle

Coverings: Hurricane 3 2,1 + Curl P1R 1,0
Overall weight: 184g

Impressions after 3 full training sessions:

- Stiff and hard/medium hard blade, thickness 5,7mm. Quite lively compared to Stratus Powerdefense, which gives a little bit more dampening effect and has a somewhat dead feeling.
- due to higher weight and larger blade size this setup is more head-balanced, but still comfortable. Handling is more sluggish, especially when playing at the table.
- remarkable: this blade is slower on chops and passive strokes than Stratus Powerdefense with same rubbers. I'm netting quite some shots because of it, placement often is not deep enough.
- Service is easy to control, the ball can be placed well (no matter whether short or deep), spin is good (perhaps also due to new rubbers)
- when attacking with topspin, the ball flies longer and higher compared to Stratus Powerdefense, attacking backspin is easy.
- if hitting harder, it transforms to a veritable attacking blade. I feel sort of a kick, similar to Donic Defplay, but more controllable. Same as I remember JSH, but the effect comes earlier.
- control is very good.

Conclusion:
I like the design of the blade. If trying to describe the feeling when playing the words solid and stable fit well. It seems to offer a larger spectrum of speed compared to Defplay or Powerdefense with very good control. Chopping is safe, attacking powerful. It feels like a little slower brother of JSH

Despite not wanting to change equipment while season is running, I used this setup exclusively the last training sessions. No difference when doing drills, match results have been more or less the same as with my well-known Powerdefense-Setup, although I still have numerous easy misses. I'm looking forward to the weekend when next team encounter will be played.

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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2019, 17:46 
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Blade: BTY Diode V
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Six weeks later...

Didn't return to the Powerdefense, even for match play. In the mean time I sold off all other blades (and rubbers!) I had, including my old trusted Powerdefense and got a spare Diode V. This one weighs 95g, I notice no difference in playing characteristics to the first one. The issue I had with netting touch balls and chops beeing not deep enough is gone.

In a little EJ-fit I tried a Victas V>15 2,0 as inverted rubber. In short words: topspin and block: wow, attacking backspin: hmm, pushing: yuck! Match results have been ok, but I soon returned to H3 - no boosting, no neo, simply the plain commercial version.

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PostPosted: 18 Mar 2019, 23:32 
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Six weeks later...

Didn't return to the Powerdefense, even for match play. In the mean time I sold off all other blades (and rubbers!) I had, including my old trusted Powerdefense and got a spare Diode V. This one weighs 95g, I notice no difference in playing characteristics to the first one. The issue I had with netting touch balls and chops beeing not deep enough is gone.

In a little EJ-fit I tried a Victas V>15 2,0 as inverted rubber. In short words: topspin and block: wow, attacking backspin: hmm, pushing: yuck! Match results have been ok, but I soon returned to H3 - no boosting, no neo, simply the plain commercial version.

Agreed. V>15 is not great for pushing, especially if you are used to H3. Interested in this blade, still seems a little too heavy at 96g.

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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2019, 17:21 
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Blade: BTY Diode V
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Japsican wrote:
...still seems a little too heavy at 96g

Some thoughts on racket weight:
- If you are playing with short strokes, much wrist and sharply accelerated movements I agree. But if your technique tends to favour longer strokes the weight of the blade does not really matter.
- In my experience when playing from mid distance some mass really helps generating power and stabilizing your stroke. (Did I mention? I use defense/underspin to set up attacks. In my heart I am not a defender. I have to force myself taking a slow start to each rally...)
- Rationally it's more of a felt difference than a real existing one: a setup consisting of VKM, Innershield, VKMO, etc with same rubbers is 10g less at most - around 175g compared to 185g. Does this really matter?
- My first VKM had 97g, my first JSH 94g. Seems quite similar. And I had a VKM and two Defplay at ~80g that warped (is this the correct word for the survace not beeing flat anymore?). Didn't ever experience this with heavier and/or thicker blades.
Japsican wrote:
Interested in this blade...

Diode V is not so much different to VKM, VKMO, VKMS or a lightweight JSH as to make a real difference. Nobody will get a better player using it. My advice:
- don't read blade or rubber reviews. This is :devil:'s way to boost the TT suppliers.
- resist your EJ urge :angel:.

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