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PostPosted: 06 Feb 2019, 00:03 
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Blade: Dr N Magical Touch
FH: Yinhe Big Dipper
BH: Spinlord Waran 1.8 mm
I'm looking for a spinny short pip rubber that could replace Waran on my BH. Waran has conical, horizontally aligned pips so I guess I'm looking for a similar composition. Waran's sponge is a very soft tensor. I'm happy with Waran but it isn't easy to buy in the US, so looking for a replacement that would possess similar characteristics and be easier to get.

So far, I've tried the following 729 pips: 802 (tack-speed), 802-40 (super soft), and Legend 105. All of them feel far too hard compared to Waran, getting my arm tired.



PostPosted: 11 Feb 2019, 12:55 
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So far I haven't come across anything with a sponge as soft as the Waran. The 105 comes close, but if that's too hard, you are out of luck :lol: .

I haven't tried yet, but look into the Tuttle Summer 3c. Supposedly a hard topsheet+soft sponge combo in the same vein as Waran.


PostPosted: 12 Feb 2019, 16:02 
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I know for a fact that Donic Baxter F1A is softer and Tibhar Speedy Soft D.Tecs is about as soft while both being more controllable than Waran . If you like Waran just buy it online from tabletennis11. You get free shipping if you order more that 80 euros worth of stuff. I doubt you will need to replace short pips that often anyways.

PostPosted: 14 Feb 2019, 11:48 
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Blade: BBC Ghost
FH: Nittaku Moristo SP Ax
BH: Dr Neubauer Aggressor OX
I'm testing a few short pips right now. Of them, Victas VO > 102 is the softest of these, and for that matter, probably softer than any SP I've tested which now number about 12-15. Horizontal pip orientation, super-fast, easy to use, and a nice click when hit hard.

PostPosted: 14 Feb 2019, 22:46 
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Blade: Donic Defplay Senso V3
FH: SpinLord Waran 2.0
BH: SpinLord ORKan 1.5
In my quest to see how well I can play transitioning from inverted to short pips on my forehand, I've ordered a few rubbers to try. I've only played with Waran so far, but I did just get a sheet of the Dr. Neubauer Pistol 2. It feels like the sponge on that is pretty soft, at least comparable to Waran, if not softer. But again, this is coming from someone who's new to short pips on the forehand.

The other two rubbers I ordered to eventually try out are Waran II (definitely a harder sponge) and TSP Spinpips Red (also feels harder than Waran).

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Blade: Donic Defplay Senso V3
FH Rubber: Testing a transition from inverted to SpinLord Waran 2.0
BH Rubber: Testing a transition from OX long pips to SpinLord ORKan 1.5

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