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PostPosted: 15 Mar 2019, 22:14 
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Hi

I'm a new convert to SP's. I'm playing with them on the FH having recently switched from "normal" inverted rubber. I've tried a few different types but not yet found the perfect fit for me.


Essentially what I'm looking for is a modern, fast, spinny/grippy SP that is towards the inverted rubber end of the SP spectrum. I basically want a rubber that behaves pretty much as an inverted would, and can play all the same sort of strokes, but just that you contact the ball with a slightly more open bat angle.


I'm trying to play a Mattias Falck sort of game, but I've tried the Rakza PO rubber that he uses and think that its maybe not quite grippy/spinney enough.


I currently have bats set up with the following:


Firestorm (max sponge) - feels a bit too hard and plastic and not sure the grip is high enough - pimples are smooth so I wonder if the ball might be slipping a bit on contact.

Flarestorm (max sponge) - not as hard and plastic feeling as firestorm but is along the right lines, I think but seems a bit slow.

Joola Express Ultra (max sponge) - probably the nicest one I've tried so far. nice and soft top sheet which I think is what I need, but the sponge is a bit too soft and seems to feel like its bottoming out a bit.


From my research I think Spin Pips Red and Impartial XS might be worth a go, but would welcome other recommendations.


Thanks

Stuart


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Have you considered Spinlord Waran?
There are two versions available: Waran features a hard topsheet and a very soft sponge, and Waran II has the same topsheet but the sponge is much harder.


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PostPosted: 15 Mar 2019, 23:13 
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try the cheapo chinese ones like friendship 802-40

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PostPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 00:05 
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Haifu dolphin is awesome. But i am looking for something else, because it seems like they are not doing it anymore and quality issues.

Tried spinpips blue. Good spin, but no power. So i would stay away from red. Do not know much about impartial.

Why do you need so much spin? i also like grip for serve and first opening loop, but on the other shots you want to flathit but maybe hard in the beginning. Looping with a short pimple is not good.


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PostPosted: 16 Mar 2019, 20:23 
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+1 to gus_goose's suggestion. Look for the softer sponged versions.

My first 802-40 I bought from China (Directly from Eacheng, IIRC). Fairly firm sponge like most chinese rubbers, some version of "Mystery sponge", I think. OK, but nothing special.

Now I am on my second sheet, bought from tabletennis11. It had a softer and more springy sponge. Packaging says "Special super soft pro version". I play more consistently with this one, and like it better than the first I had.


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Sounds like Victas 102 may suit you. See the recent thread on this rubber.

Or you could go with a low throw inverted rubber which would require a less closed blade.

The Question for you is, which is more important creating topspin or hitting through spin


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I also think a softer sponge will make it easier in the beginning, and proably a good first step coming from inverted because they are more close to eachother. But i think, that with all soft sponge rubbers, you can cheat much much much more with technique and footwork, because you get more for free from the sponge so i think it is better for your technique to use harder rubbers.


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