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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2019, 07:06 
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A warning regarding the sponged version. It’s extremely brittle. I had to use acetone in order to not break it completely when removing it. I’ve probably glued 20-30 different rubbers and I’ve never encountered such a brittle rubber. Using Andro Free Glue which I believe is manufactured by ESN (so it should be very similar to the Xiom, Donic, Tibhar etc equivalents).


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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2019, 09:45 
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What was brittle, the sponge or the topsheet?


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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2019, 15:18 
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hardbatpower wrote:
What was brittle, the sponge or the topsheet?


The sponge.


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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2021, 20:30 
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Hi,

I tried this blade recently on an medium-stiff Allround Blade, and was blown-away by the consistency & control I could achieve with this .. The first game, I play was against an average player, and I was mostly passive-blocking. I could move the ball (and hence the player too) around the table, with great ease.. Next, I started with a bit of aggressive pushing, and with this setup, I could do so, better than with any of my own setups .. Not much of funkiness in flight or after bounce, but the ball stayed low, and on the table ..

Next 2-3 games, I played was against 2 relentless power-loopers. Now, against this type of a player, I would usually step-back (mid-distance), and chop. Doing so, with this setup, was super controlled, and I could land well-above 90% of the chops against top-spins, on the table.. After the first set, I was advised by the owner of the Death setup, to use my wrist while chopping, and even pushing .. This then, made one heck of difference, sending back, low returns with considering amount of backspin/side-spin. This coupled with the reduced-pace of my returns , seem to really trouble the relentless power-looper sorts.

Then, I started getting cocky - attempting to do something I never do during a game - Chop-block, against easier loops/top-spins - and even that worked... Hell, I even attack more consistently, with this LP ..

Did not notice and out-right funkiness or disruption with this LP.. Not much of reversal either, that this until to use your wrist - That's when, I feel, this rubber, starts to shine..

Dunno whether it was just beginner's luck, but my, this rubber has been quite a revelation ... To me, it felt like a do-it-all rubber.

I wonder if anyones using this as a primary rubber, in 2021 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 08 Jan 2021, 23:05 
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Hi,

I tried this blade recently on an medium-stiff Allround Blade, and was blown-away by the consistency & control I could achieve with this .. The first game, I play was against an average player, and I was mostly passive-blocking. I could move the ball (and hence the player too) around the table, with great ease.. Next, I started with a bit of aggressive pushing, and with this setup, I could do so, better than with any of my own setups .. Not much of funkiness in flight or after bounce, but the ball stayed low, and on the table ..

Next 2-3 games, I played was against 2 relentless power-loopers. Now, against this type of a player, I would usually step-back (mid-distance), and chop. Doing so, with this setup, was super controlled, and I could land well-above 90% of the chops against top-spins, on the table.. After the first set, I was advised by the owner of the Death setup, to use my wrist while chopping, and even pushing .. This then, made one heck of difference, sending back, low returns with considering amount of backspin/side-spin. This coupled with the reduced-pace of my returns , seem to really trouble the relentless power-looper sorts.

Then, I started getting cocky - attempting to do something I never do during a game - Chop-block, against easier loops/top-spins - and even that worked... Hell, I even attack more consistently, with this LP ..

Did not notice and out-right funkiness or disruption with this LP.. Not much of reversal either, that this until to use your wrist - That's when, I feel, this rubber, starts to shine..

Dunno whether it was just beginner's luck, but my, this rubber has been quite a revelation ... To me, it felt like a do-it-all rubber.

I wonder if anyones using this as a primary rubber, in 2021 ?



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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2021, 00:30 
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doom71 wrote:
I found this new interesting video. The boy is 12 years old and beats the number 2 of France in his category.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cqg3GTW2oM


look at the block at 2:50 - and reach your conclusions... :?:


I'ts a chop block. BTW just ordered a red OX sheet to try & compare vs Giant Dragon Talon red OX National Team.

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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2021, 01:30 
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You will find more control than GD NT , more expensive too .However, it won't beat GD braking effect.I stopped using GD NT due to the super mega high sensitivity to the no spin ball.I did even try an experiment at the time,which was to try and reduce the speed of the rubber, just the speed of the rubber.Even with 20% less speed ,the high sensitivity to no spin balls was still there .

Let me remind anybody that GD NT is expensive too .


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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2021, 07:13 
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How do you reduced the speed?

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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
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merlin el mago wrote:
ootbs wrote:
Hi,

I tried this blade recently on an medium-stiff Allround Blade, and was blown-away by the consistency & control I could achieve with this .. The first game, I play was against an average player, and I was mostly passive-blocking. I could move the ball (and hence the player too) around the table, with great ease.. Next, I started with a bit of aggressive pushing, and with this setup, I could do so, better than with any of my own setups .. Not much of funkiness in flight or after bounce, but the ball stayed low, and on the table ..

Next 2-3 games, I played was against 2 relentless power-loopers. Now, against this type of a player, I would usually step-back (mid-distance), and chop. Doing so, with this setup, was super controlled, and I could land well-above 90% of the chops against top-spins, on the table.. After the first set, I was advised by the owner of the Death setup, to use my wrist while chopping, and even pushing .. This then, made one heck of difference, sending back, low returns with considering amount of backspin/side-spin. This coupled with the reduced-pace of my returns , seem to really trouble the relentless power-looper sorts.

Then, I started getting cocky - attempting to do something I never do during a game - Chop-block, against easier loops/top-spins - and even that worked... Hell, I even attack more consistently, with this LP ..

Did not notice and out-right funkiness or disruption with this LP.. Not much of reversal either, that this until to use your wrist - That's when, I feel, this rubber, starts to shine..

Dunno whether it was just beginner's luck, but my, this rubber has been quite a revelation ... To me, it felt like a do-it-all rubber.

I wonder if anyones using this as a primary rubber, in 2021 ?



OX?



Yes.. OX (Red)


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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 12 Feb 2021, 00:43 
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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
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It's fast com pared vs Giant Dragon Talon NT OX red treated with sun & loctite.

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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
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No sink effect. The pips are more concentrated & stiff.

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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
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The last week tried with Nittaku Acoustic Carbon but was impossible to chop block close to the table because the blade is too fast, yesterday changed the Stiga All Round Classic for Stiga Infinity VPS Diamond Touch Legend handle and now is other story, this rubber is very good, a lot safe than Thibar Grass DTecs & Giant Dragon Talon National Team, it seems harder than the other two & the control is simply superb. Today I will play agains very strong players to see how performs.

N.B. Be care for the weight of Stiga Infinity VPS Diamond Touch, I have a couple: Legend handle 80gr & ST handle 93gr....

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 Post subject: Re: Metal TT death
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2022, 20:46 
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I tried this rubber OX with kokutaku ice & fire and BT primorac (old 90´s blade) but not good for me.
TT pips are more concentrated than DM Kamikaze or Sauer Hellfire, but TT is more controllable.
TT pips are medium hard but no sinking effect. Need push the ball and play actively to be effective.
Similar to cropcircles rubber, but cropcircles is more soft and efective to AR game.
Kamikaze and Hellfire are mor dangerous to attack.


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