OOAK Table Tennis Forum :: Yet another Grass D.TecS thread

I've played with the D.tecs quite a bit (borrowed from various club-mates), and really like it..

After playing with atleast 6 different LPs, I finally got myself the D.tecs, but then the darn virus pissed-all over my plans ... Can't wait to get back to playing, especially with the D.tecs... Along with the D.tecs, I also got myself DG ... Anyway, the lockdown has given me enough time to consider what blade to mount both LPs on ... I've narrowed down, on either TSP Trinity Carbon or Donic Waldner Senso (Ultra??) Carbon for the DG... However, I'm still confused bout what blade to mount the D.tecs on... I prefer an All/All+, but it has to thin and light (<=82gms)... The only blade, I'm leaning towards is the Stiga Allround Classic

ootbs wrote:

Hi "ootbs" as you can see I really like the Trinity Carbon which is light & thin all my blades have weighed in there low 70gms one was actually just under 70gms so perfect for the D.tecs

My advice would be to consider a very slow blade if you plan on playing active with D.TecS. I’ve probably tried 9-10 different blades (everything from JSH to IF ALC to VKM to Stiga Defensive) but have finally settled for a balsa blade. My hit rate when hitting through backspin has gone up massively. Speed has gone down but the funk is still there.

Gentlemen I assure you that the batch of Trinity carbon that are available from the Ooak TT shop are lighter & slower than what they normally are that's why I purchased them & I've actually have four of them with different setups. For me firstly you get the blade that feels like an extension of your body then you vary the rubbers to suit your style

Can anyone advise the difference in speed, control etc between DtecS 0.9mm and 1.2mm sponge.

Also how does age and use affect it as regard speed grip , control etc.?

I have been trying out a fairly old sheet of 1.2 black and want to get an idea what to expect if a I buy a new sheet

Author:	Djuka [ 18 Mar 2020, 04:17 ]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm2AsArwGcI Yo se hyuk Tenergy 05 1,7 red Grass Dtecs OX black https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypwbmy5Z6qE VKM Tibhar 5Q max black Gras Dtecs OX red My son and his friend play with Tibhar Grass Dtecs OX and can stand against better players

Author:	Gollum [ 23 May 2020, 18:37 ]
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I've been a fan of the Tibhar Grass Dtecs red OX for a long time but because I'm always looking to improve I changed to Dr N Troublemaker red OX & persevered with it for quite a long time. It was slower which I liked but I couldn't get the spin reversal or the wobble & I decided I preferred the extra speed so now my main blade setup is the Dtecs red OX on my BH

Author:	ootbs [ 23 May 2020, 18:58 ]
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I've played with the D.tecs quite a bit (borrowed from various club-mates), and really like it.. After playing with atleast 6 different LPs, I finally got myself the D.tecs, but then the darn virus pissed-all over my plans ... Can't wait to get back to playing, especially with the D.tecs... Along with the D.tecs, I also got myself DG ... Anyway, the lockdown has given me enough time to consider what blade to mount both LPs on ... I've narrowed down, on either TSP Trinity Carbon or Donic Waldner Senso (Ultra??) Carbon for the DG... However, I'm still confused bout what blade to mount the D.tecs on... I prefer an All/All+, but it has to thin and light (<=82gms)... The only blade, I'm leaning towards is the Stiga Allround Classic

Author:	Gollum [ 23 May 2020, 23:40 ]
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ootbs wrote: I've played with the D.tecs quite a bit (borrowed from various club-mates), and really like it.. After playing with atleast 6 different LPs, I finally got myself the D.tecs, but then the darn virus pissed-all over my plans ... Can't wait to get back to playing, especially with the D.tecs... Along with the D.tecs, I also got myself DG ... Anyway, the lockdown has given me enough time to consider what blade to mount both LPs on ... I've narrowed down, on either TSP Trinity Carbon or Donic Waldner Senso (Ultra??) Carbon for the DG... However, I'm still confused bout what blade to mount the D.tecs on... I prefer an All/All+, but it has to thin and light (<=82gms)... The only blade, I'm leaning towards is the Stiga Allround Classic Hi "ootbs" as you can see I really like the Trinity Carbon which is light & thin all my blades have weighed in there low 70gms one was actually just under 70gms so perfect for the D.tecs

Author:	ootbs [ 24 May 2020, 00:47 ]
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Gollum wrote: ootbs wrote: I've played with the D.tecs quite a bit (borrowed from various club-mates), and really like it.. After playing with atleast 6 different LPs, I finally got myself the D.tecs, but then the darn virus pissed-all over my plans ... Can't wait to get back to playing, especially with the D.tecs... Along with the D.tecs, I also got myself DG ... Anyway, the lockdown has given me enough time to consider what blade to mount both LPs on ... I've narrowed down, on either TSP Trinity Carbon or Donic Waldner Senso (Ultra??) Carbon for the DG... However, I'm still confused bout what blade to mount the D.tecs on... I prefer an All/All+, but it has to thin and light (<=82gms)... The only blade, I'm leaning towards is the Stiga Allround Classic Hi "ootbs" as you can see I really like the Trinity Carbon which is light & thin all my blades have weighed in there low 70gms one was actually just under 70gms so perfect for the D.tecs Yes, I think it was your reviews (in part) that's drawing me towards this blade.. I've never played with this blade.. So, if I get it, it'll be a blind bet for me ... The blade is rated around OFF ... and the DG is supposed to be slower than D.tecs, so I feel that it'd be a better match with this blade... D.tecs is on the faster-side, and although, it'd probably give me above-average reversal & funk, if paired with a blade like Trinity Carbon, I'm concerned about the control aspect... Also, Trinity Carbon seems to be out of production, so availability is an issue. I've seen new ones on Sale, only at the OOAK Shop, but I don't think they ship to where I am... I've managed to find someone in France, who'll willing to sell & ship a barely-used blade... The deal was almost done, but then COVID happened..

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Author:	mart1nandersson [ 24 May 2020, 00:56 ]
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My advice would be to consider a very slow blade if you plan on playing active with D.TecS. I’ve probably tried 9-10 different blades (everything from JSH to IF ALC to VKM to Stiga Defensive) but have finally settled for a balsa blade. My hit rate when hitting through backspin has gone up massively. Speed has gone down but the funk is still there.

Author:	ootbs [ 24 May 2020, 01:40 ]
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mart1nandersson wrote: My advice would be to consider a very slow blade if you plan on playing active with D.TecS. I’ve probably tried 9-10 different blades (everything from JSH to IF ALC to VKM to Stiga Defensive) but have finally settled for a balsa blade. My hit rate when hitting through backspin has gone up massively. Speed has gone down but the funk is still there. Yep... I've played with the Stiga Allround Classic & D.tecs combo, and I think it'd work well for me ... A notch faster and light would work too ..

Author:	Gollum [ 24 May 2020, 12:29 ]
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Gentlemen I assure you that the batch of Trinity carbon that are available from the Ooak TT shop are lighter & slower than what they normally are that's why I purchased them & I've actually have four of them with different setups. For me firstly you get the blade that feels like an extension of your body then you vary the rubbers to suit your style

Author:	ootbs [ 24 May 2020, 19:28 ]
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Gollum wrote: Gentlemen I assure you that the batch of Trinity carbon that are available from the Ooak TT shop are lighter & slower than what they normally are that's why I purchased them & I've actually have four of them with different setups. For me firstly you get the blade that feels like an extension of your body then you vary the rubbers to suit your style yep, but the additional shipping-costs, and duties make it very prohibitive ..

Author:	ChasFox [ 05 Jun 2020, 20:54 ]
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Can anyone advise the difference in speed, control etc between DtecS 0.9mm and 1.2mm sponge. Also how does age and use affect it as regard speed grip , control etc.? I have been trying out a fairly old sheet of 1.2 black and want to get an idea what to expect if a I buy a new sheet

Author:	mart1nandersson [ 06 Jun 2020, 21:44 ]
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ChasFox wrote: Can anyone advise the difference in speed, control etc between DtecS 0.9mm and 1.2mm sponge. Also how does age and use affect it as regard speed grip , control etc.? I have been trying out a fairly old sheet of 1.2 black and want to get an idea what to expect if a I buy a new sheet I've only used OX and 0.5mm but the grip in the top sheet is reduced quite a bit after 30-40h of use. Hitting with a brand new sheet is much easier compared to a sheet that's been used for a few months. Speed doesn't seem to change at all.

Author:	Joo Se Kev [ 07 Jun 2020, 03:51 ]
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ChasFox wrote: Can anyone advise the difference in speed, control etc between DtecS 0.9mm and 1.2mm sponge. Also how does age and use affect it as regard speed grip , control etc.? I have been trying out a fairly old sheet of 1.2 black and want to get an idea what to expect if a I buy a new sheet I can only compare the 1.2mm sponge to the 0.5mm, but I imagine the differences will be similar, albeit to a lesser degree. The 1.2mm sponge will have less reversal and "pips effect" but will have a higher potential for spin variation and more "oompf" for chopping heavy loops off the table. Control for table play and service reception is slightly tougher with the thicker sponge. The 0.9mm will feel a little more controlled and may get a bit more passive reversal at the table. At the end of the day, one isn't necessarily better than the other, it's just a matter of trade-offs.

Author:	igorponger [ 07 Jun 2020, 04:35 ]
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JUST A PALLIATIVE. Japan older folks would never betake to LP Rubber to play. It all because Japanese seniors all possesing strong legs and muscular body stature. LP is much like a palliative medicine that does not work for long.

Author:	iskandar taib [ 10 Jun 2020, 18:32 ]
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Certain Russian older folks, on the other hand... "betake" to posting weird, untrue and irrelevant stuff on forums. Iskandar

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Author:	stretch [ 19 Jul 2020, 23:37 ]
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I've played with Dtecs ox for many years previously but always struggled playing my offensive style consistently. I then tried many other combinations and developed the attacking skills with the pips. I now have one of my main setups with the Dtecs on a viscaria copy blade. I had an old unopened Dtecs from my previous playing years and stuck that on. With the plastic ball I'm finding it much more effective to attack with. I do use it predominantly on my forehand and am finding great success with it. I really prefer attacking instead of being too passive even though in defence it's really good as well. The feeling I get is when I attack the opponent, is more satisfying since they are not in control of the point and are forced to defend or try to rally with a long pips player. Highly frustrating for offensive players. So it depends on what style of play you have. Ive used this sheet for about 40 - 50 hours and the feeling is still rather consistent in grip and speed. I find this pips good for zones 1 and 2. I don't have much space to play in zone 3 due to the lock down but I know from previous experience with celluloid ball that the long chops were decent but not brilliant. After lock down I'll test zone 3 with the plastic ball.