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Author:  Carpe Noctem [ 06 May 2020, 03:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

unorthodox_lp-er wrote:
I've just re-watched the video of Schmerz (ox) from Geblocktt.
It almost seems the perfect pip for my game. I'm looking for a more active type of play. As said before, I do not rely on reversal made by blocks.
I think that Dtecs won't have enough grip, and attacking difficulties are a real con for me.

https://youtu.be/s63revT_4SA


That is great, looking forward to reading how it goes!
And seeing how those pips play I guess it's pretty allround so it could be easy to find the right direction if it doesn't work out.

Author:  unorthodox_lp-er [ 22 Sep 2020, 18:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

Carpe Noctem wrote:
unorthodox_lp-er wrote:
I've just re-watched the video of Schmerz (ox) from Geblocktt.
It almost seems the perfect pip for my game. I'm looking for a more active type of play. As said before, I do not rely on reversal made by blocks.
I think that Dtecs won't have enough grip, and attacking difficulties are a real con for me.

https://youtu.be/s63revT_4SA


That is great, looking forward to reading how it goes!
And seeing how those pips play I guess it's pretty allround so it could be easy to find the right direction if it doesn't work out.



It's been quite a while now after the last post. Thought I'd post an update.

I have learned that I really need to practise a lot more with my long pips (hehe you can never practise too much ;) ). After having switched from inverted to long pips on the backhand, my game now relies too much on my backhand.

My coach told me that I am mastering LP's really fast (it's been ~1 year after the switch), but that me losing a match is mainly due to too many forced errors on my backhand (playing too agressive chops and sideswipers instead of controlled). I want to play most shots with my forehand which is really strong if I should believe what he tells me (switched to DHS TG3 Neo because I liked it way better than the H3Neo (found it too soft)). At the moment I am trying to shift from subconsciously using my backhand too much to consciously using my forehand more, which results in more winning rallies.

For now I'll be sticking to BT(ox). I want to practise a lot in consciously using my forehand more and controllably using my backhand before moving on to a different rubber if wanted later on.

Author:  ootbs [ 23 Sep 2020, 16:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

unorthodox_lp-er wrote:
I have learned that I really need to practise a lot more with my long pips (hehe you can never practise too much ;) ). After having switched from inverted to long pips on the backhand, my game now relies too much on my backha


Yep ... that happened to me too, when I started playing with LP ... Infact, it still happens, every now-n-then, and especially, when I'm playing with a new LP...

unorthodox_lp-er wrote:
For now I'll be sticking to BT(ox). I want to practise a lot in consciously using my forehand more and controllably using my backhand before moving on to a different rubber if wanted later on.


I would strongly recommend that you incorporate twiddling into you game... It works, on several levels...

btw ... which BT setup is your primary ?

Author:  unorthodox_lp-er [ 23 Sep 2020, 20:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

The XVT setup is my main one. I can twiddle quite well, but I do it only for the service. I do not feel confident enough yet to incorporate it into my game, because it is quite hard to adjust. I still need to practise backhand topspin more because before switching to LP's my backhand rubber was a bit softer (First aurus sound 1.9, then friendship ritc729, then LP).

Author:  ootbs [ 23 Sep 2020, 21:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

unorthodox_lp-er wrote:
The XVT setup is my main one. I can twiddle quite well, but I do it only for the service. I do not feel confident enough yet to incorporate it into my game, because it is quite hard to adjust. I still need to practise backhand topspin more because before switching to LP's my backhand rubber was a bit softer (First aurus sound 1.9, then friendship ritc729, then LP).


The XVT Hinoki Balsa Carbon is an amazing blade.. especially, considering the price-point ... The thick handle may take some getting used, and may not be conducive to twiddling, for some ..

Against players, who's service action, I can read easily, I will twiddle and the hit outright winners with inverted on BH, against no-spin serves .. At times, I will twiddle, mid-point, and push with the inverted on the BH .. or, I will twiddle and play a FH stroke, with LP... It's a good way to mix things-up, and keep the opponent guessing, and force errors.. When playing with the XVT, I do a lot of blocking with the inverted on BH, against top-spins.. this foxes a lot of players, since they'd be expecting a Long-pip return.

Ofcourse, I've still not mastered anything, and it's still a work-in-progress.

Author:  unorthodox_lp-er [ 26 Sep 2020, 17:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

ootbs wrote:

The XVT Hinoki Balsa Carbon is an amazing blade.. especially, considering the price-point ... The thick handle may take some getting used, and may not be conducive to twiddling, for some ..


Yeah, it is really great! It gives me just enough speed on my forehand because I am using a chinese rubber, and on the edge of being too fast for my backhand. I've played with combination blades, but they're not my cup of tea.
The handle fits nicely in my hand and works well for twiddling, as I have big hands.

ootbs wrote:
Against players, who's service action, I can read easily, I will twiddle and the hit outright winners with inverted on BH, against no-spin serves .. At times, I will twiddle, mid-point, and push with the inverted on the BH .. or, I will twiddle and play a FH stroke, with LP... It's a good way to mix things-up, and keep the opponent guessing, and force errors.. When playing with the XVT, I do a lot of blocking with the inverted on BH, against top-spins.. this foxes a lot of players, since they'd be expecting a Long-pip return.

Ofcourse, I've still not mastered anything, and it's still a work-in-progress.


Sounds like an interesting match for anyone who plays you. Backhand block with inverted is an interesting option... never really thought about it. Might give a lot of time to me for the ball exchange after I've blocked.

Author:  ootbs [ 27 Sep 2020, 02:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Similar LP to Bomb Talent

unorthodox_lp-er wrote:
ootbs wrote:

Sounds like an interesting match for anyone who plays you. Backhand block with inverted is an interesting option... never really thought about it. Might give a lot of time to me for the ball exchange after I've blocked.


I played with LP, as a sub-junior, and then played with inverted on both-sides, once I reached juniors, and mens .. then, stopped playing, and returned to game, after almost 20 years .. still, played double-inverted, with my BH being over-all stronger than FH... A Frozen-shoulder, and subsequently a tennis elbow made me switch back to LP, around 1.5 - 2 years back .. But, it was like learning to play with LP, from scratch ... anyway, 'nuf of the sob-story... I've figured-out a wee bit of LP-play, but yet, a long way to go..

I twiddle, simply to mix things up .. most players (My level and below), familiar with how to play against LP, and who play with me, for the first time, will try to give me no-spin balls to my BH, least expecting me to twiddle and whack the ball for a winner.. or they'll top-spin to my BH, expecting a LP return (which I do, a lot of times), with some backspin. But, every now-n-then, I'll block with my inverted-side, winning me the point, most times..

Most players will figure-out my game after a couple of sets, and then kick my butt.

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