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I chop with BTY Speedy P O on BH from mid distance once forced back further from table, using more side chops like Hou to force misjudgement by opponent. it has variation in spins and is quite spinny too.

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Blade: BTY Schlager FH: BTY Feint Long 2 OX BH: BTY Speedy P O
Blade: BTY Schlager FH: TSP P1R OX BH: TSP Spectol

Blade: Stiga rosewood7 FH: 563-1BH: TSP Spectol

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BTY Joo Se Hyuk/ PALIO JP-8000 39-41 2.2/ STIGA Clippa on Giant Dragon damping sponge 1.6

The AIR zerop sponge is softer than the 25 degree sponge on feint soft, its like a foam. its so soft it feels hard.

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Next update:

• The best setup for my BH so far is Donic Defplay Senso + TSP Spectol Speed 1.5
• Donic Defplay Senso + TSP Spectol top sheet on top of Feint Soft 1.5 sponge is also OK but this "custom" rubber is very critical to the hardness of blade, so I decided to stop experimenting with it.

Now I am trying Armstrong rubbers (Donic Defplay Senso, BH):

• Attack8 EXX 2.5 (~1.2mm 40 deg)
• Attack8 EXX PZC-SP 3.0 (~1.7mm 25 deg)
• W-alpha EXX PZC-SP 3.0 (~1.8mm 25 deg)

I am going to publish update as soon as I feel confident with those pips; stay tuned! ; )

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BTY Joo Se Hyuk/ PALIO JP-8000 39-41 2.2/ STIGA Clippa on Giant Dragon damping sponge 1.6

What does Irene Ivancan use for her SP chopping? How about Li Qian? What they use may give you some idea of what works for them and may apply to your game. I am pretty sure both use SP on their BH.

I've read that ivanican uses challenger chop...Not easy to get in the US Not sure what the others use.

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-Teddy

I heard that challenger chop has been discontinued

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I think Ivancan uses Challenger Attack topsheet with a special soft sponge, a lot of the short pip choppers use 802 with a special custom sponge.

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Sir, is it like the special chop sponge underneath Yuto's TSP Spinpips?
Are defensive rubbers work best in soft sponge? Or is it more forgiving when the sponge is harder?

Thanks in advance

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Has anyone tried friendship/729 799 for chopping? What sponge. I do not see any good long reviews, only a quick mention here and there after a search. TIA.

I use it in 1.5. Just started recently though (2 hrs this far). Works good, comming from Feint Long II 1.1 mm. It is more grippy of course and a little faster. But still deceptive and ok to attack with. Tomorrow I will try 802 with a soft 1.0 sponge. I tried it in 1.5 original sponge but it was a little too fast and grippy. 799 is a good place to start I guess. But I will be aiming at 802.

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Now I have one more session. I think this rubber works great for chopping but since I don't have much experience with SP chopping I can't say what the benefits with this particular rubber is. But you can generate lots of spin on chops and also make low spin chops. But I guess that it is easier to change between those two with other SP like 802. But 799 is probably easier to control in general.
Pushing over the table might be the weak spot of this SP. Difficult to generate any spin there. But that tricks opponents very much This SP actually behaves, in some ways, similar to a grippy LP but pips are harder and faster.
Here is a short clip of me pushing and chopping with 799 1.5 mm: http://youtu.be/QPV8F_RVN5Y

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I've tried chopping with many different SPs and sponge thicknesses. Honestly, I think 1.5 is the best, though it may seem thick coming from LPs. It may also make you think of trying a regular sized blade instead of a defensive blade, b/c of the extra weight.

What I found is each SP has its weaknesses and strengths and none outshined the others. I found Spectol 1.4 - 1.7 to be the best. Superspin Pips were unpredictable.... 802 as well.

The problem with 1.1mm (Spectol) is that it doesn't spin as much, it bottoms out immediately in any close to the table action (so forget about hitting and blocking reliably) and frankly the thicker sponge is more controllable and pushes are much heavier.

I ultimately went back to LPs b/c SP requires a much more active game, where you run back faster to get into position and your footwork must be better. For the younger, athletic types, I think it's a great way to go. But I'm 40 and overweight, so I'm sticking with something where I don't need to run around like a madman.

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Kim Kyung Ah + Skyline TG 3 Neo + 799 1.2mm

Anyone who is using SP for chopping or trying it out. Are you using the same defensive blade or are you going to a more regular sized head? All my defensive blades are oversized.

I use the same blade as with LP. Gives good control, dwell time and spin.

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