OOAK Table Tennis Forum :: JOOLA Express Ultra

Hi nathan have you ever tried rakza po? I have been using short pips on both sides now ( before that I used inverted for 18 years but always was a flat hitter). I am interested how rakza po compared to the express ultra.

sunflex wrote:

Nope, that's one I haven't tried.

Hi Nathanso,

Can you compare the topsheet and sponge hardness vs the Hexer pips+, Spinpips Red, and Waran? Those are the only ones on your list I'm familiar with.

Cheers,

Hi Nathanso,

Not sure if this is hijacking a thread, but interested to hear your comparison between the Express Ultra and 102. Think of picking up one of these.

lasta wrote:

Hi Nathanso,

Not sure if this is hijacking a thread, but interested to hear your comparison between the Express Ultra and 102. Think of picking up one of these.

I did a good bit of testing today with these four SPs at my local tt club:

First, their weights from identically cut black sheets for my over-sized blade:
Express Ultra 2.0mm 40.1g
VO 102 1.8mm 34.9g
Spinpips RED 2.0mm 38.2
Nittaku Moristo SP Ax max 40.8

I'll refer to these below as EU, 102, SRED, and SPAx respectively.

Speed: EU => 102 > SPAx > SRED
Spin: 102 > EU => SRED => SPAx
Sound: 102 > EU > SPAx => SRED
Insensitivity to incoming spin: SRED > EU > 102 > SPAx
Feel/Feedback: 102 => EU > SRED > SPAx

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Author:	nathanso [ 24 Feb 2019, 10:29 ]
Post subject:	JOOLA Express Ultra
I've started testing JOOLA Express Ultra along with several others: Nittaku Moristo SP Ax Andro Blowfish+ Andro Hexer Pips+ Victas VO > 102 Sauer&Tröger Hass TSP Spinpips RED Der Materialspezialist Firestorm GAMBLER GXS Nittaku Beautry Spinlord Waran Initial impressions of this JOOLA SP are that it's fast, spinny, clicky, and easy to use on FH. Blocks very well, controlling incoming topspin with ease. Plays like a faster Spinpips RED in many respects, which is a good thing! More comments later..

Author:	lasta [ 24 Feb 2019, 16:20 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Looking forward to your comparison with Blowfish+, which is faster? I've been eyeing the Express, but very hard to get a hold of around here. Blowfish (regular non+) is my next fallback.

Author:	nathanso [ 25 Feb 2019, 09:22 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Blowfish+ and JOOLA EU are miles apart in how they play so speed should not be your deciding factor.

Author:	nathanso [ 03 Mar 2019, 15:04 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
After a few more play days with JOOLA Express Ultra I must say that it's really growing on me. It plays crisp, with nice feedback and a satisfying click when hit hard. Plenty of spin when needed and explosive flat-hitting speed. Always predictable and linear. I think it has displaced Nittaku Moristo SP Ax as my FH SP.

Author:	sunflex [ 03 Mar 2019, 17:32 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Hi nathan have you ever tried rakza po? I have been using short pips on both sides now ( before that I used inverted for 18 years but always was a flat hitter). I am interested how rakza po compared to the express ultra.

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Author:	nathanso [ 04 Mar 2019, 08:15 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
sunflex wrote: Hi nathan have you ever tried rakza po? I have been using short pips on both sides now ( before that I used inverted for 18 years but always was a flat hitter). I am interested how rakza po compared to the express ultra. Nope, that's one I haven't tried.

Author:	Monolith [ 10 Mar 2019, 03:41 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
nathanso wrote: sunflex wrote: Hi nathan have you ever tried rakza po? I have been using short pips on both sides now ( before that I used inverted for 18 years but always was a flat hitter). I am interested how rakza po compared to the express ultra. Nope, that's one I haven't tried. I have just got myself a Spinlord ultra power Blade and am undecided on whether to put TSP Spinpips red on forehand or joola express ultra, what do you think would be best for a blade like this Thanks for any advice

Author:	CoachMcAfee [ 10 Mar 2019, 08:36 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Joola Express is my forehand rubber of choice. Interesting pip as you can play it with classic flat hitting technique or play normal topspin strokes. Very easy to handle the opponent's spin and also can produce very heavy spin serves. As mentioned in other posts, nice sound with a "kill" shot. All-in-all, a nice all-round short pips, with no great weakness and high speed and spin capabilities. Coach McAfee

Author:	lasta [ 10 Mar 2019, 17:01 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Hi Nathanso, Can you compare the topsheet and sponge hardness vs the Hexer pips+, Spinpips Red, and Waran? Those are the only ones on your list I'm familiar with. Cheers,

Author:	nathanso [ 11 Mar 2019, 08:16 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
lasta wrote: Hi Nathanso, Can you compare the topsheet and sponge hardness vs the Hexer pips+, Spinpips Red, and Waran? Those are the only ones on your list I'm familiar with. Cheers, Sponges from softest to hardest: HP+, JOOLA EU, Spinpips RED. Same ordering for the topsheets. The gap between HP+ and JOOLA EU is much larger than the gap between JOOLA EU and Spinpips RED, i.e. HP+ is really soft! I don't have my sheet of Waran anymore so can't include that in the comparison.

Author:	lasta [ 16 Mar 2019, 12:56 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Hi Nathanso, Not sure if this is hijacking a thread, but interested to hear your comparison between the Express Ultra and 102. Think of picking up one of these.

Author:	dwruck [ 18 Mar 2019, 04:39 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
I would say the Spinpips Red is definitely harder than Waran.

Author:	nathanso [ 18 Mar 2019, 10:08 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
lasta wrote: Hi Nathanso, Not sure if this is hijacking a thread, but interested to hear your comparison between the Express Ultra and 102. Think of picking up one of these. I did a good bit of testing today with these four SPs at my local tt club: First, their weights from identically cut black sheets for my over-sized blade: Express Ultra 2.0mm 40.1g VO 102 1.8mm 34.9g Spinpips RED 2.0mm 38.2 Nittaku Moristo SP Ax max 40.8 I'll refer to these below as EU, 102, SRED, and SPAx respectively. Speed: EU => 102 > SPAx > SRED Spin: 102 > EU => SRED => SPAx Sound: 102 > EU > SPAx => SRED Insensitivity to incoming spin: SRED > EU > 102 > SPAx Feel/Feedback: 102 => EU > SRED > SPAx > refers to more than => refers to same or slightly more than

Author:	dwruck [ 18 Mar 2019, 21:49 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
Great information, thanks!!!

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Author:	bbkon [ 05 Apr 2019, 00:26 ]
Post subject:	Re: JOOLA Express Ultra
nathanso wrote: lasta wrote: Hi Nathanso, Not sure if this is hijacking a thread, but interested to hear your comparison between the Express Ultra and 102. Think of picking up one of these. I did a good bit of testing today with these four SPs at my local tt club: First, their weights from identically cut black sheets for my over-sized blade: Express Ultra 2.0mm 40.1g VO 102 1.8mm 34.9g Spinpips RED 2.0mm 38.2 Nittaku Moristo SP Ax max 40.8 I'll refer to these below as EU, 102, SRED, and SPAx respectively. Speed: EU => 102 > SPAx > SRED Spin: 102 > EU => SRED => SPAx Sound: 102 > EU > SPAx => SRED Insensitivity to incoming spin: SRED > EU > 102 > SPAx Feel/Feedback: 102 => EU > SRED > SPAx > refers to more than => refers to same or slightly more than What about sink?