OOAK Table Tennis Forum

I mainly look for speed and control, positioning the ball on the table with speed (I know this depends more on technique than rubber, but one should help more than the other). durability would also be good too.

What exactly would you like to know? 802 is short pips, 653 is medium pips (though this isn't an official ITTF category).

Iskandar

which is best for my style of play, both have the same price on aliexpress (Happy shopping 365days). And the difference between them. has almost the same notes on the revspin (652 and 802)

The 652 has a slightly softer topsheet and smaller pimples than 802 (but still much harder than German pips). 802 Mystery 3 has 4 different sponge types, the 652 is a bit softer than the softest 802 mystery 3 version, but not as soft as the old 802 35 degree version. Grip is less than 802.

Neither are fast by modern standards. If you want speed from Chinese pimples, get the hardest you can find and swing really hard. Otherwise, tensor pips are much easier to use.

Be careful about Aliexpress and 729 products, ask which exact version they are sending you because you can get one of a whole bunch of different variations.