Mima ito - absolute crushed Han Ying (LP). Just saying.

Han Ying uses Spectol, short pips

What´s the point? Ito doesn´t chop at all.

The latest short-pips-are-not-suited-for-chopping-threads are not about facts, I think it's more of a religious thing with tobara, hubeer et. al.

They could listen to the master himself, here he explains why he's chosen short pips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuyyA4sV6sI? But yeah, I remember - he would have been better off chopping with long pips. Those guys from CNT have no idea of table tennis...

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The latest short-pips-are-not-suited-for-chopping-threads are not about facts, I think it's more of a religious thing with tobara, hubeer et. al.

They could listen to the master himself, here he explains why he's chosen short pips: ? But yeah, I remember - he would have been better off chopping with long pips. Those guys from CNT have no idea of table tennis...

beware: irony

So to summarize, short pips for chopping is a moronic fantasy and or psychotic approval seeking behavior. Please please end this. Please switch to improved high Aspect Ratio long-pips rubbers are now readily available.

I have a bold statement that I hope others with agree with or refute based on their actual experience (and not what they've read or think should happen): Short pips offer more options close to the table than (sponged) long pips.

Background: I switched from a double-sided attacking game with smooth rubbers to a modern defensive style about a year ago. Initially, I liked OX long pips for the variation and control when playing close to the table (my training and instincts from being an attacking player means I'm still more comfortable close to the table). As I've gotten more accustomed to the chopping style (push the serve with backspin and step back from the table to begin defending), I've discovered OX LPs don't support this as well (pushing a backspin serve and producing backspin is hard with OX, and with no sponge, strong loops are hard to chop back onto the table ). Moving to sponged long pips has helped pushing and chopping, but there is no threat of a surprise attack. As long as the opponent keeps hitting shots to my backhand (loops or pushes), I can only play defensively (bumping with Feint Long 3 doesn't work so well). Sometimes I will step around to use my FH, but this leaves my wide FH corner open. So are short pips the answer? I will be able to push heavy over the table, but I can also hit a loose serve. During the rally, I have the option to chop from a few feet off the table or step in for the BH punch. Also, a short pips block should be a better option than blocking with FL3.

So in theory, I'm giving up some ease with chopping, but gaining more attacking options and new ways to handle the constant stream of balls coming to my backhand. My goal is to be able to chop as a primary strategy against loops to my BH, but also have some options. I have a paddle with short pips on it that I will try out today, so I should be able to report my findings soon.

Sounds like you're battling players without strong loops, or at least don't use them consistently.

Of course SP offers more options as far as spin and attacking go... but ONCE people start looping heavy at you, all of those advantages go away! Then all of the problems discussed here pop up and you won't be able to chop nearly as effectively or efficiently with SP.

If you don't encounter those kinds of players, and don't plan to, then you might as well stick with SP. Scaling up is a whole different story!