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PostPosted: 14 Jul 2021, 23:35 
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Did he use an old sheet of the SG? It seems that there wasn't very much spin reversal

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Did he use an old sheet of the SG? It seems that there wasn't very much spin reversal
He used a rather fresh sheet, original sponge in 0.8. And DHS balls. Simon is very used to playing against anti and he does not do lots of spin on his attacks. But there is enough spin I can assure you.

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First of all, this is very useful. And if you continue, it will be much appreciated.

Playing with anti is surely not about spin reversal but we all enjoy that ability and especially your showing what is happening to the ball when it is left alone shows absolutely how much backspin results from that simple block.

In this video --> https://youtu.be/hVXs3XcWz_g?t=199 ( which I linked to the very moment ) , the backspin caused from the same kind of block feels like twice the spin reversal compared to the recent ones you guys just posted. The difference is considerable. And that one was 1.6mm and this one is 0.8mm. So, from a spin reversal point of view, 0.8 must be better but it **looks like** 1.6 proves otherwise.

Am I reading this whole thing wrong?


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First of all, this is very useful. And if you continue, it will be much appreciated.

Playing with anti is surely not about spin reversal but we all enjoy that ability and especially your showing what is happening to the ball when it is left alone shows absolutely how much backspin results from that simple block.

In this video --> https://youtu.be/hVXs3XcWz_g?t=199 ( which I linked to the very moment ) , the backspin caused from the same kind of block feels like twice the spin reversal compared to the recent ones you guys just posted. The difference is considerable. And that one was 1.6mm and this one is 0.8mm. So, from a spin reversal point of view, 0.8 must be better but it **looks like** 1.6 proves otherwise.

Am I reading this whole thing wrong?


Thanks! Let me know if anything should be changed to make those kinds of films more useful!

About the back spin, I think it is about the same, but in the video you linked I was looping with a tacky chinese rubber and Marcus lifted the ball rather high with his block, removing most of the speed, and therfore making the ball roll backwards earlier from the loop. That is why it has more spin left at the time it reaches the floor. If you block a spinny loop low, but rather long (you might add some speed) the ball is carrying lots of speed forward. For making that ball stop and turn backwards requires much more back spin than if your block is made very short (if you dampend the speed by having moving the bat towards the body at ball contact). Using a thicker anti makes this a lot easier, so 1,6 mm may be making the blocks harder to attack, but then because of the slower speed forward. Also, with a thicker anti, the block will go higher. And keeping the blocks low is, at least at my level, more important than making them slow.

There may be a slight difference in how much spin reversal can be generated with these different setups, but the other factors, like spin and speed and timing etc are much more important for the result. So these versions are all very good, what to choose is a mater of taste, what feeling you like and how it works with your FH rubber. I will keep the Winner, if works great with my FH rubber and I use it with 1,2 mm to have a little more security.

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