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 Post subject: ABS 2 legal?
PostPosted: 31 Dec 2018, 07:37 
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Is the 2.5 mm sponge on ABS2 by Dr. N legal?

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If the total thickness is 4mm or less, sure.

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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
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I have played with the new ABS2 (with 2.1mm sponge) and the pips are shorter compared to the regular ABS so that with thicker sponge (2.3 or 2.5mm) it does not exceed the maximum thickness allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
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Matt Pimple wrote:
I have played with the new ABS2 (with 2.1mm sponge) and the pips are shorter compared to the regular ABS so that with thicker sponge (2.3 or 2.5mm) it does not exceed the maximum thickness allowed.

I have a Palio txt blade which is very stiff and fast also a dr neubauer firewall plus would either of these blades match up well with dr neubauer abs2 soft antispin well or is something slower better
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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2019, 08:52 
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Monolith wrote:
I have a Palio txt blade which is very stiff and fast also a dr neubauer firewall plus would either of these blades match up well with dr neubauer abs2 soft antispin well or is something slower better

Yes you can play the ABS2 soft with a faster blade. That's the good thing about the new Dr. Neubauer antis (both ABS2 and ABS2 soft) with the thick sponge (2.3 or 2.5mm) that you can play those on a fast blade. One thing I would like to add is that the ABS2 soft is a little bit faster than the normal ABS2 and it plays a little bit more springy but it is still pretty slow.

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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
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NOBODY COULD CHALLENGE ABS LEGALITY.
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SANDWICH RUBBER RECOGNIZABILITY.
■ The sponge of one type may only differ in colour and thickness.
■ If manufacturer wishes to market the same topsheet with sponge or sponges of another type, having different density, hardness, material, etc., the approval fees will be charged separately for each new sponge, and the topsheet must be moulded with a new model name ...
ABS 2 Soft [26-036] rubber comes with a topsheet under different name. The rubber is OK in every way.
ABS 2 [26-033] is equiped with a sponge of different type from the original ABS [26-008]. The rubber comes under different name. Therefore, it is a legal product in every inch.

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Matt Pimple wrote:
Monolith wrote:
I have a Palio txt blade which is very stiff and fast also a dr neubauer firewall plus would either of these blades match up well with dr neubauer abs2 soft antispin well or is something slower better

Yes you can play the ABS2 soft with a faster blade. That's the good thing about the new Dr. Neubauer antis (both ABS2 and ABS2 soft) with the thick sponge (2.3 or 2.5mm) that you can play those on a fast blade. One thing I would like to add is that the ABS2 soft is a little bit faster than the normal ABS2 and it plays a little bit more springy but it is still pretty slow.

Which in your opinion would be the better blade to use with Anti the firewall plus or Palio tct?
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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
PostPosted: 28 Oct 2019, 20:05 
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Palio tct is a great blade for short pimples, but bad for slick antis an its too "springy", it gives bad results in terms of spinreversal

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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
PostPosted: 29 Oct 2019, 06:19 
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Palio tct is a great blade for short pimples, but bad for slick antis an its too "springy", it gives bad results in terms of spinreversal
I tried TCT today with a well used DMS Reflection, I think in 1.2 mm. I must say that this blade is very good with anti. It has a very low throw så the ball stays close to the ne. Thw ball leaves the bat very fast, so very short dwell time, normally good for spin reversal. But tve best part is aggressive oushing against back spin, there it really shines. But I obly used the setup against a defender, so I need a few more sessions before I really know what I like it. Great for smashing though :)

@Amir, I see you are using the Barna-blade. I heard Guido saying it is even better for anti than Carbon DeLuxe. What can you say about it in comparison to DeLuxe? Lower throw? Speedwise?

Also, I noticed (of course) the new anti Stöhrkraft :). What can you say about that? You've had for a while now I guess (well, heard from Guido). What path is it following? Like Reflection or Scandal or Diabolic? Same sponge as Scandal/Reflection? Is it optimized for ABS ball in some way? I found Diabolic and Reflection ok with Stiga Perform (the worst ball for this game style but the most common in Sweden) while Scandal did not work at all (low, but no spin).

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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
PostPosted: 30 Oct 2019, 07:57 
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I tried TCT today with a well used DMS Reflection, I think in 1.2 mm. I must say that this blade is very good with anti. It has a very low throw så the ball stays close to the ne. Thw ball leaves the bat very fast, so very short dwell time, normally good for spin reversal. But tve best part is aggressive oushing against back spin, there it really shines. But I obly used the setup against a defender, so I need a few more sessions before I really know what I like it. Great for smashing though :)

@Amir, I see you are using the Barna-blade. I heard Guido saying it is even better for anti than Carbon DeLuxe. What can you say about it in comparison to DeLuxe? Lower throw? Speedwise?

Also, I noticed (of course) the new anti Stöhrkraft :). What can you say about that? You've had for a while now I guess (well, heard from Guido). What path is it following? Like Reflection or Scandal or Diabolic? Same sponge as Scandal/Reflection? Is it optimized for ABS ball in some way? I found Diabolic and Reflection ok with Stiga Perform (the worst ball for this game style but the most common in Sweden) while Scandal did not work at all (low, but no spin).

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we are a bit off-topic here, so this will be my last response on these issues here :P

1. TCT- i loved the TCT so much in combination with short pimples that i tried so many to see if any slick anti worked with it...and the truth is that the TCT is awful for slick antis in comparison to other blades...the reversal is much worse and the anti gets a catapult/springy feel...

2.Barna Triumph has a slightly higher throw but with slick antis the blocks become shorter and the spinreversal is a tad higher possibly...weirdly enough, attacks seem a tad faster with it.

3.cant say anything about the new rubber yet.. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: ABS 2 legal?
PostPosted: 30 Oct 2019, 08:11 
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Def-attack wrote:
I tried TCT today with a well used DMS Reflection, I think in 1.2 mm. I must say that this blade is very good with anti. It has a very low throw så the ball stays close to the ne. Thw ball leaves the bat very fast, so very short dwell time, normally good for spin reversal. But tve best part is aggressive oushing against back spin, there it really shines. But I obly used the setup against a defender, so I need a few more sessions before I really know what I like it. Great for smashing though :)

@Amir, I see you are using the Barna-blade. I heard Guido saying it is even better for anti than Carbon DeLuxe. What can you say about it in comparison to DeLuxe? Lower throw? Speedwise?

Also, I noticed (of course) the new anti Stöhrkraft :). What can you say about that? You've had for a while now I guess (well, heard from Guido). What path is it following? Like Reflection or Scandal or Diabolic? Same sponge as Scandal/Reflection? Is it optimized for ABS ball in some way? I found Diabolic and Reflection ok with Stiga Perform (the worst ball for this game style but the most common in Sweden) while Scandal did not work at all (low, but no spin).

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we are a bit off-topic here, so this will be my last response on these issues here :P

1. TCT- i loved the TCT so much in combination with slick antis that i tried so many to see if anyone worked...and the truth is that the TCT is awful for slick antis in comparison to other blades...the reversal is much worse and the anti gets a catapult/springy feel...

2.Barna Triumph has a slightly higher throw but with slick antis the blocks become shorter and the spinreversal is a tad higher possibly...weirdly enough, attacks seem a tad faster with it.

3.cant say anything about the new rubber yet.. :lol:
Thanks!

To get closer to topic, I tried a 1.8 mm version of ABS2 soft on a Bloodhound, that was quite nice. A bit difficult to control but way better blocls than 2.5 version on Stiga Carbonado 90.

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AA wrote:
Palio tct is a great blade for short pimples, but bad for slick antis an its too "springy", it gives bad results in terms of spinreversal
I tried TCT today with a well used DMS Reflection, I think in 1.2 mm. I must say that this blade is very good with anti. It has a very low throw så the ball stays close to the ne. Thw ball leaves the bat very fast, so very short dwell time, normally good for spin reversal. But tve best part is aggressive oushing against back spin, there it really shines. But I obly used the setup against a defender, so I need a few more sessions before I really know what I like it. Great for smashing though :)

@Amir, I see you are using the Barna-blade. I heard Guido saying it is even better for anti than Carbon DeLuxe. What can you say about it in comparison to DeLuxe? Lower throw? Speedwise?

Also, I noticed (of course) the new anti Stöhrkraft :). What can you say about that? You've had for a while now I guess (well, heard from Guido). What path is it following? Like Reflection or Scandal or Diabolic? Same sponge as Scandal/Reflection? Is it optimized for ABS ball in some way? I found Diabolic and Reflection ok with Stiga Perform (the worst ball for this game style but the most common in Sweden) while Scandal did not work at all (low, but no spin).

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Amir,
you probably have been asked many times, but I could not find the answer.
what do you consider the best blades for slickest anti?
I play now with Mizutani Jun (carbon blade) and have Garaydia t5000(carbon blade), also have Revolution and Matador Texa
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osmar92 wrote:

Amir,
you probably have been asked many times, but I could not find the answer.
what do you consider the best blades for slickest anti?
I play now with Mizutani Jun (carbon blade) and have Garaydia t5000(carbon blade), also have Revolution and Matador Texa
thank you


sorry for anyone bothered by another off-topic, but here we go: in the past couple years i have only tried der-materialspezialist blades..my favourites are: barna triumph, revolution and carbon deluxe

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