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Or she will be in another three years...

Iskandar

Wow!

Very impressive!!!

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And a 2100 rated 9 year old. Apparently there's also a 12 year old we haven't met yet.



Also a good demonstration of 2100-level lob defense. To catch him out your dropshots have to bounce twice.

Can you do the bounce-on-side-of-table thing?

Iskandar

Which brings up this video that EmRatThich just posted.



About how many "levels" there are in table tennis. He breaks them down into about four. I disagreed, and posted the following screed under his comments!

There's actually far more than four levels. Take the USATT Ratings System. For those who aren't familiar with this, it's based on the system used in chess. The higher your rating, the better of a player you are. At tournaments, you can increase your rating by beating players who have a higher rating than yours. Tournaments are broken up into "ratings events" - e.g. U-1900, U-2100, U-2300, etc. so anyone who goes to a tournament can find 2-3 classes they can compete in with players of more or less the same level. The ratings scale starts at around 500, these are usually little kids. 1000 level players aren't necessarily beginners, they might have been stuck at this level for many years (and you also find hordes of players stuck around 1500, or 1700 or 1900 for decades..). A 1000 player can run rings around the usual "basement player" or "rec room player" but doesn't have the necessary skills to beat someone rated higher. The top end of the scale? A 2400 player is pretty good, you can actually start winning (small amounts) of prize money at this level. Top world class players would be maybe 2900 or 3000, the best men US players are slightly below 2800, the top ranked US resident seems to be Xi Sheng of New York (2783). The best women are around 2650 (Liu Juan, New York, 2662) You'll see the occasional internation player on the list (Thiago Monteiro, 2766). To be a "pro" (that's SUCH a misused word - a "pro" should be someone good enough to make a living playing competitive table tennis - in reality there really aren't very many, for even many TOP players table tennis is a money SINK) you'd need to be above 2600 for the men, probably 2400 for women (the men's and women's ratings systems are the same, since men do play against women in tournament events, unlike in ITTF matches). You could be considerably less to be a professional (i.e. it's your day job) COACH. (Yangyang is around 2200.)

OK. So we come to levels. How many levels are there? Take a match between a 1000 level player and a 2000 level player. The 1000 level player would have NO chance of even returning the 2000 player's serves. How would he do against a 1200 level player? Almost no chance - with a 200 point difference, the lower rated player would win maybe 20% of the games, and maybe 5% of the matches. A 400 point difference? Maybe 0.5% of the matches. By the time you get to a 500 point difference, the two players wouldn't even have fun hitting against each other (this probably less true at the top levels than it is beween 1000 and 2000). So I'd take a "level" as being 200 points. So there'd be FIVE levels between 1000 and 2000, and another four levels above 2000. So that's something like NINE levels between a 1000 rated beginner and a 2800 level (low-ranked) international pro. For the BULK of us, moving up 200 points is HARD, unless you're a junior who's getting coaching and practice and you're on your way up. Some people have been stuck at their level (be it 1000, 1200, 1500, 1700, 1900, etc.) for YEARS. Or DECADES. Many of them are geezers, they've been playing for CENTURIES (uh, maybe not.. ) and there are other geezers (in their 70s) who are still rated 2200.

So.. I guess I'm looking forward to EmRatThich's next video. Never mind jumping the 500 points his "level gaps" imply, I'd love to find out how to improve 100 points before I retire!

Iskandar

Um... Well, maybe the 3 year old isn't rated 1900. Yet. But if you don't think the 6 year old is, watch this video.



Looks like the U-7 matches are played on a shortened table in Japan. What a neat idea. All you need is a hacksaw, I suppose... it'd be interesting to find out what the specs are.

Can you do that bounce-the-ball-against-the-side-of-the-table thing??? I can't.. Nor can I do a reverse tomahawk..

Iskandar

Wow...future champions there. And they can bring each other up!

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Watching this with smiles and laugh sometimes, but with lots and lots of respect and amazing, wonderful, i really feel shame that i never had any training like this in my life and i am 40 now and doesn't have little/small percent of their skills, good job!

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When that 3 year old makes it into the Word's Top Ten, remember where you came across her first..

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I see Bobrow can still do the snake with a pistol grip at 6:10, makes me want to try this handle

Oh good grief... These were just posted in the last day or so.





Give Miku another seven or eight years.. Wow.

Iskandar

In case anyone's wondering..

Sora (who wasn't in these videos - he was off practicing with the Japanese National Team!) is currently ranked #35 in the Men's, #6 in the U-19, and #3 in the U-17 (which means he's probably 16). Toa doesn't seem to have an international ranking yet. Miku is #697 in the U-19, #553 in the U-17, #345 in the U-15, #128 in the U-13 and and #19 in the U-11. She's the top Japanese girl in the U-11 category, and played in the 2023 WTT Youth Contender in Korea this last August. I guess Aira's a bit too young yet..

Oh goodness.



Also, I hadn't seen this one yet.



Iskandar