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Swedish Open QF against Liu Jia (WR12)

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Victas Koji Matsushita
Thibar Hybrid k1 euro max
TSP Curl p1-r 1.0

At 3:11 and 3:27 show exactly my struggles of using SP to chop. The first time, Han doesn't get back fast enough after coming into the table. You have to be really fast and in great shape to run in push and run back fast enough to get enough distance before the next loop.

The second case. you can see a massive, spinny topspin from the opponent, which when you see it coming, you almost know the chop is going to go too high or long and in this case, both happened!

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Kim Kyung Ah + Skyline TG 3 Neo + 799 1.2mm

my "new" favorite chopper ,

As for problem #1: you have the alternative to block one ball, gaining time for the retreat - SP is perfect for blocking.
As for problem #2: you can't chop it (and keep it low) going horizontally under the ball, but you can chop it going diagonally downward fast with lots of wrist, grazing the ball - that is a controlling chop, but it produces enough backspin to keep you in the rally.

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Without opponent, no match.

The problem with blocking is that a good player will rip the block, probably wide to your forehand. That's why you never or almost never see pros blocking with the SPs. In intermediate levels, no problem.

Yes, you can graze it, but it's freakin hard! This is ultimately why I went back to LPs. The big, heavy spinners were impossible for me to control. Sure, if I stuck with it for a year, I'd get it down.

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Kim Kyung Ah + Skyline TG 3 Neo + 799 1.2mm

I agree it poses risks, but it also depends on how it is done, doesn't it? Penholder players like Gao Jun (female, short pips, DEF+ blade) blocked all the time, aggressively changing the spin, placing meticulously - of course not giving the opponent a ball that would make it easy to attack your own vulnerable side. Even Ding Song (male, SP bh, modern defender) used to block (aggressively) with his bh when he was caught close to the table.

I agree with all of that as well - defense with SP backhand is a difficult style that requires a lot of training. It is a bit easier with female players, since their opponents usually don't have a really powerful loop, but some do, and then the defender is in deep trouble. Male players have to back off fast and a long way in order to be able to chop powerloops. And there is no easy out; using less sponge underneath the SP, for instance, is not really an option; it does offer better/easier control, but makes it much harder to generate heavy backspin on your own - which is why SP is used in the first place.

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Amazing and exhilarating! Such excellent skill on both sides! A great spectacle!

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Without opponent, no match.

802 or spectrol? ahahahha
the blade is VKM....

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Victas Koji Matsushita
Thibar Hybrid k1 euro max
TSP Curl p1-r 1.0

According to Lars Borg at Japsko she uses Spectol (and the Logo area of her rubber verifies that).

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You guys watch the Final in Qatar?

Disappointing play by Han. Couple things I noticed. Most of her balls that she returned were really short or medium length. Missed soooo many simple pushes. Anyways, nice to see a defender in the final.

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Kim Kyung Ah + Skyline TG 3 Neo + 799 1.2mm

I just noticed one dammmm thing... E. samara was just attaking in the FH of Han.
And Han didnt play in the the left to Samara attack her BH.
of course its not that easy, but when she did, she make the point.

and BTW i really like how well she can atttack and counter attack...

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Victas Koji Matsushita
Thibar Hybrid k1 euro max
TSP Curl p1-r 1.0

Sorry manofan, what do you mean by this?

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han was placing the ball in the rigth side of the table so E. Samara was just attacking in her FH.
E. Samara strategy was clear to me attack in the FH off Han as much as possible, and when the ball was put in the left of the table see just push to Han FH again so she can be back to attack on Han FH.
Han need to put more balls in the left side of the table to force E. Samara to attack in her BH so she can chop with her BH, most of Han points was when she did this...

Dont you think so?

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Victas Koji Matsushita
Thibar Hybrid k1 euro max
TSP Curl p1-r 1.0