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When I think of a modern defender, I don't think of someone who attacks with their pips, or whatever defensive rubber they are using for chopping. I think of someone like Yuto Muramatsu or Ruwen Filus or Panagiotis Gionis, who will either look for opportunities to run around and attack with their inverted, or who will twiddle and attack on their forehand. The players that attack with defensive rubbers generally do so close to the table, so I wouldn't categorize them as a modern defender. I agree that, from the perspective of thinking of players like the one I've mentioned, you could probably use this rubber for that purpose, although it might not be the best option.

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Blade: Stiga Cybershape Carbon
FH Rubber: Butterfly Tenergy 19 2.1
BH Rubber: Dr Neubauer ABS3 1.5

as a modern defender style basically involves chopping away from the table until a chance to attack arrives there is one big problem with most MP - they are just not very good at chopping. Barna half long in thin sponge may be an exception as may the old TSP militall

Nittaku Do knuckle 0,5 has has very little effect on the first chop, I guess it will be a rubber to attack

Hey, I would just like to know, how does it feel in the pushing game?
Can you give some effect?
To give a low ball do you have to do an almost full swing or you can also play a shorter swing (SP or inverted-like, or even something close to FL3)
Thanks

I've actually tried it, here's my review:
https://youtu.be/NcWLTXAAveE

Looks like you got some good spin generation going on, but it seemed to me like your pushes vs push tended to sit up a little higher than your chops. Do you think its more difficult to keep push v push lower with this rubber versus say a short pimple?

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Please see the video link below. 佐藤瞳 is currently the top women chopper in Japan national team. She uses Nittaku DO Knuckle 1.4mm on BH. I also recently use Nittaku DO Knuckle 1.4mm on BH too. It's such a wonderful rubber. I am not a chopper but mix chopping in my style. Nittaku DO Knuckle can perform aggressive attacks like other medium pimple rubbers do. It can also do defensive moves like chopping and blocking very well. Because of its soft sponge, you will be able to control pushing easily without the risk of high trajectory. If you are not a chopper, I will suggest beginning with 1.4mm sponge not thinner one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLgzFNqShPM

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Blade#1: Xiom ICE CREAM AZX
Blade#2: Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner
Blade#3: Joo Saehyuk
FH: VICTAS 102 2.0mm
BH#1: Spinlord Gipfelsturm 1.5mm (ALC side)
BH#2: Nittaku DO Knuckle 1.4mm
BH#3: Yasaka Anti Power

Looks like both rubbers inverted ... I don't see pips

See two links below

https://takkyu-navi.jp/player/detail/1088

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/ ... 1000p.html

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Blade#1: Xiom ICE CREAM AZX
Blade#2: Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner
Blade#3: Joo Saehyuk
FH: VICTAS 102 2.0mm
BH#1: Spinlord Gipfelsturm 1.5mm (ALC side)
BH#2: Nittaku DO Knuckle 1.4mm
BH#3: Yasaka Anti Power

This from 2019!

Look on this video on 0:32. She wiping her black rubber and you can see red rubber also inverted


https://youtu.be/rLgzFNqShPM

This is another video recording of the same game. Look at the cover picture, the black rubber on the BH is pimple rubber to me. I extract the cover photo in the 2nd link. It shows very clearly Nittaku Do knuckle. If you need another example, the other Japan woman chopper 橋本帆乃香 also use Nittaku Do knuckle on BH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43B-iuBTj9k
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/43B-iuBTj9k/maxresdefault.jpg

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Blade#1: Xiom ICE CREAM AZX
Blade#2: Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner
Blade#3: Joo Saehyuk
FH: VICTAS 102 2.0mm
BH#1: Spinlord Gipfelsturm 1.5mm (ALC side)
BH#2: Nittaku DO Knuckle 1.4mm
BH#3: Yasaka Anti Power

How you explain she breath and wiping black rubber then? It doesn't make sense if it was pips.

The cover picture I extract already show clearly Nittaku Do knuckle. This should not be a question any more I guess. About why breath and wiping black rubber, I don't know maybe there is sweat drop on it? This happened to me sometimes.

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Blade#1: Xiom ICE CREAM AZX
Blade#2: Nittaku Acoustic Carbon Inner
Blade#3: Joo Saehyuk
FH: VICTAS 102 2.0mm
BH#1: Spinlord Gipfelsturm 1.5mm (ALC side)
BH#2: Nittaku DO Knuckle 1.4mm
BH#3: Yasaka Anti Power

pushes weren't the best thing to do with this rubber, it was pretty hard to keep the ball low and give spin, pushing with an sp is much much easier, and I also like more pushing with lp since i have to use a longer stroke, but the ball wiil get some backspin if i do it correctly and it'll be easier to keep the ball low

For me BH pushes with DO Knuckle (1.4mm on VKM & DHS08x) are far better than when I use long pimples like FLII or P1r. I can choose based on my hand movement if I will return a backspin ball or no-spin ball like I do with long pips. I can push brushing the ball, like it is an inverted rubber, and return a back spin ball (not much, but enough) to make the attacker to return a low speed but top spin ball (loop) instead of a speed drive that I get with the long pimples rubbers push.

I just have trouble keeping the ball on the table while chopping, I need extra control that I don't have or a slower blade than VKM or DHS08x. So I ordered and waiting the 1mm version of DO Knuckle. Not an "easy-to-find" pip in Europe.

It is a very versatile PIP! I can easily top-spin loop with it from BH any ball, producing a slight top-spin ball or punch (speed drive) the ball producing a "knuckle" fast no-spin ball.

As I play in a league with older veterans, that they usually don't do top spins loops, this rubber help me a lot to play close to the table. Chopping is very rare in these matches as they usually drive/smash instead of spin/loop balls. Overall I am very extremely happy with this pips, my last year's 17-14 record, now is 12-1 and counting!!

I hope the 1mm Do Knuckle will help me keep the chops on table instead of flying over and do not loose any of the advantages that 1.4mm is giving me.

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current setup: blade: Yinhe 980 | FH: Palio AK47 Blue 2.1mm | BH: TSP Curl P1-R 1mm
looping setup: blade: Yinhe W-6 | FH: Palio AK47Red 2.1mm | BH: Palio AK47Blue 2.1mm
@work setup: blade: Yinhe 980 | FH: Yinhe Mercury2 2.1mm | BH: Yinhe Neptune 0.7mm
to-be-used setup: blade: DONIC DefPlay Senso 3 | FH: YASAKA Rakza 7 soft 1.8mm | BH: TSP SpinPips Chop 2 1.4mm