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Author:  Pure Luck [ 17 Nov 2019, 01:16 ]
Post subject:  Medium pip for defense/allround?

Anybody knowledgable could help with choosing please?
I need it to be quite spinny (less than slick sp but more than spinny lp like p1r) of defensive priority but also ability to aggressive block/hit vs topspin and underspin attack.

Author:  deva sarjan [ 17 Nov 2019, 07:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Curl P2

Author:  Pure Luck [ 17 Nov 2019, 08:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Hey, thanks for the suggestion.
Is it grippy enough though? The reviews differ quite a bit on that rubber. Also what thickness?

Author:  Def-attack [ 17 Nov 2019, 09:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

TSP Millitall II is a rather grippy but very safe pip, with small skinny but not very tall pips. Like a shrunken lp :).

Author:  Pure Luck [ 17 Nov 2019, 10:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

This one seems interesting. I'll see if anyone has any other suggestions.

Author:  ChasFox [ 17 Nov 2019, 20:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Medium pips can be a bit fast for defense but a couple of options that may work for you are Spinlord Orkan 1.5mm or Sauer & Troga Hipster. Orkan has less spin than Hipster but is more disruptive when blocking and counter hitting top spin.

Author:  iskandar taib [ 18 Nov 2019, 02:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

I suppose you could compensate by using a suitably slow blade (Toxic 3? Hock 3 ply?) or an absorbing sponge (who was it who made that sponge that was more like foam?), but you'd have to ask yourself - what would be the point of choosing medium over long pips? You'd have a little more of an attack, I suppose...

Iskandar

Author:  ChasFox [ 18 Nov 2019, 02:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Yes medium pips are still fundamentally attack orientated rubbers, just with more disruption effect than SP

Wanting to also be able to fall back and Chop as well as attack I am going to experiment with some of the grippier sponge long pips like AP2 and Schmerz. Have played a bit with Dtecs 1.2mm but it needs quite a bit of skill and practice to master.

Author:  deva sarjan [ 18 Nov 2019, 07:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Pure Luck wrote:
Hey, thanks for the suggestion.
Is it grippy enough though? The reviews differ quite a bit on that rubber. Also what thickness?


Yes, grippy enough.
OX, 1.0-1.3 or 1.4 - 1.7 mm.

Author:  Pure Luck [ 18 Nov 2019, 19:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

I mainly wanted to become more aggressive after my serve is returned too cautiously to my backhand which often happens and I can only slice those with p1r. Also when caught at the table a block is very unstable so I thought mp would be a solution. Anyway I've decided to order P2 1.5 mm and Millitall 1.5 mm.

Author:  Dusty054 [ 19 Nov 2019, 14:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Pure Luck wrote:
Anyway I've decided to order P2 1.5 mm and Millitall 1.5 mm.


Another option is Tibhar Extra Long. It's a rather slow MP compared to most. Good allround, somewhat similar to Millitall.

Author:  Pure Luck [ 19 Nov 2019, 16:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

If it's similar to millitall then it's no point losing more money on this. Thanks though.

Author:  Dusty054 [ 19 Nov 2019, 19:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Pure Luck wrote:
If it's similar to millitall then it's no point losing more money on this. Thanks though.


No problem, sounds like Millitall would probably suit you better anyway, it has a touch more speed and grip which makes it a bit better for attacking.

Author:  1dennistt [ 20 Nov 2019, 02:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Medium pip for defense/allround?

Pure Luck wrote:
If it's similar to millitall then it's no point losing more money on this. Thanks though.


Similar to MilliTall would be Nittaku PimpleMini, same basic concept, maybe a little softer and slightly more grip than MilliTall. On a side note I have a friend who hits quite well with his P1r, the problem is it's a pretty normal ball, just something not expected from a Long Pip player.

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