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Author: | haggisv [ 23 Jul 2012, 11:31 ] |
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Great review, thanks strongpong! |
Author: | dual700 [ 25 Jul 2012, 00:33 ] |
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Thank you for the review Have you used Avalox P700? I wonder how it compares to it |
Author: | strongpong [ 25 Jul 2012, 17:02 ] |
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dual700 wrote: Have you used Avalox P700? I wonder how it compares to it I have, but about 5-6 years ago, so take this with a grain of salt. The P700 feels softer and more springy. It is faster in the short game and when blocking, generating speed easier. The Swat has some lower gears for a better short game, but your swing needs to be more positive to get it to flex and start generating good pace. Top end speeds for both blades are pretty much the same. I think the amount of flex is similar on loop drives creating similar dwell times and spin. That's about all that comes to mind. |
Author: | dual700 [ 26 Jul 2012, 00:13 ] |
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Thank you! |
Author: | okl [ 27 Feb 2017, 18:15 ] |
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Revive this thread. It seem a popular blade in Japan. Anyone else has experience in this blade? I'm a penholder and would wonder if this blade suitable for RPB. Any it is suitable for use as TSP Ventus speed as FH and Agrit speed as BH. Thanks |
Author: | jonasnymose [ 04 Sep 2020, 10:58 ] |
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Would 'Swat' be a good transition between 'stiga energy wood v2' and 'Avalox bt777' if someone had to stick to the lightweight limba and ayous combi? I play with 'bt555' right now after 6 years with no tabletennis. Right now I have trouble with keeping my shorts consistent, so practicing the proper repetitions is quite important. The springyness from the 'bt555' makes me overshoot when hitting wrongly for instance (too open racket, taking the ball too early, forgetting to take half a step back etc). That could be the spruce maybe, I don't know. So was thinking of taking a step back from off- to all+ until I'm ready to take a step foward again. I have an 'Allround Evolution' on its way. When I'm ready I might take a slightly different route and go with 'Energy Wood (v2)', since it's supposed to be just a bit faster, but the same. From there I don't really know, if I should go with 'bt555' OR with 'Swat' if the speed is about the same. Or maybe transition from one to another, if 'Swat' is a bit faster'. But I would prefer a smoother transition, so maybe avoiding the spruce and sticking with just ayous and limba would be more ideal for that. Who knows? Just planning for future choices (that might change) hehe. Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk |
Author: | lasta [ 04 Sep 2020, 14:41 ] |
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jonasnymose wrote: Would 'Swat' be a good transition between 'stiga energy wood v2' and 'Avalox bt777' if someone had to stick to the lightweight limba and ayous combi? I play with 'bt555' right now after 6 years with no tabletennis. Right now I have trouble with keeping my shorts consistent, so practicing the proper repetitions is quite important. The springyness from the 'bt555' makes me overshoot when hitting wrongly for instance (too open racket, taking the ball too early, forgetting to take half a step back etc). That could be the spruce maybe, I don't know. So was thinking of taking a step back from off- to all+ until I'm ready to take a step foward again. I have an 'Allround Evolution' on its way. When I'm ready I might take a slightly different route and go with 'Energy Wood (v2)', since it's supposed to be just a bit faster, but the same. From there I don't really know, if I should go with 'bt555' OR with 'Swat' if the speed is about the same. Or maybe transition from one to another, if 'Swat' is a bit faster'. But I would prefer a smoother transition, so maybe avoiding the spruce and sticking with just ayous and limba would be more ideal for that. Who knows? Just planning for future choices (that might change) hehe. Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk Take it from a long time EJ. Tailoring gear to your style is best left once the "style" becomes a control variable. There are lots of intricacies to blade construction, avoid spruce is not going to help you unless everything else is accounted for. There is no such thing as faster but the same. |
Author: | jonasnymose [ 04 Sep 2020, 19:46 ] |
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lasta wrote: jonasnymose wrote: Would 'Swat' be a good transition between 'stiga energy wood v2' and 'Avalox bt777' if someone had to stick to the lightweight limba and ayous combi? I play with 'bt555' right now after 6 years with no tabletennis. Right now I have trouble with keeping my shorts consistent, so practicing the proper repetitions is quite important. The springyness from the 'bt555' makes me overshoot when hitting wrongly for instance (too open racket, taking the ball too early, forgetting to take half a step back etc). That could be the spruce maybe, I don't know. So was thinking of taking a step back from off- to all+ until I'm ready to take a step foward again. I have an 'Allround Evolution' on its way. When I'm ready I might take a slightly different route and go with 'Energy Wood (v2)', since it's supposed to be just a bit faster, but the same. From there I don't really know, if I should go with 'bt555' OR with 'Swat' if the speed is about the same. Or maybe transition from one to another, if 'Swat' is a bit faster'. But I would prefer a smoother transition, so maybe avoiding the spruce and sticking with just ayous and limba would be more ideal for that. Who knows? Just planning for future choices (that might change) hehe. Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk Take it from a long time EJ. Tailoring gear to your style is best left once the "style" becomes a control variable. There are lots of intricacies to blade construction, avoid spruce is not going to help you unless everything else is accounted for. There is no such thing as faster but the same. Well, if AEV is a bit less bouncy than bt555, then it's fine with me, at least right now, until I can handle the balls properly again But still how is Swat compared to Energy Wood v2, bt555 and bt777? I would like to know that please [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES] Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk |
Author: | jonasnymose [ 10 Sep 2020, 06:41 ] |
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Okay, I just tried AE today, and it doesn't seem like there's any difference in speed. AE is one of the heavy ones and bt555 is one of the light ones, so that makes sense. Same rubbers. AE though feels a bit different when I hit the ball. Like it digs slightly more in maybe. The curve Also seems to be slightly more... curved. AE has slightly more vibrations and says 'dak!' And bt555 says 'dok!'. Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk |
Author: | jonasnymose [ 21 Sep 2020, 06:14 ] |
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I got a bt777 now as well. I expected it to be too fast, but Surprisingly it's very controlled and not much faster than bt555. No transition blade needed. They play very similar. Bt777 being a bit more precise, so better for smash, blocks, placements. This is what I felt missing with bt555, which can feel a bit unstable at times. I find playing is easier for me with bt777. I just wish that it had the same low weight as the other. I'm wondering how Swat Power compares? Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk |
Author: | ChasFox [ 22 Sep 2020, 03:36 ] |
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Have you worked out his much the cut rubbers way, if at least 45gm you should be able to save up to 10gm by choosing something lighter. |
Author: | jonasnymose [ 23 Sep 2020, 10:31 ] |
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ChasFox wrote: Have you worked out his much the cut rubbers way, if at least 45gm you should be able to save up to 10gm by choosing something lighter. Uncut they weigh 62-63 g in 2.2 mm. Palio cj8000 36-38. I just ordered a Tibhar evolution FX-S in 1.9 - 2.00 mm to try out. I doubt that weight will be lighter though, but maybe I'm lucky Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk |
Author: | jonasnymose [ 07 Oct 2020, 06:32 ] |
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I've just tried Swat as well, and before hitting the club I spent som time bouncing around the ball with spin and such to test the feel, bounce and kick. With the same rubbers, Allround Evolution and Swat feels almost the same, have the same sound and have almost the same kick. They are both easier to generate spin with, but when I hit more through the layers of Swat, an extra gear kicks in. Bt555 has a very hollow sound and feels slightly more dead, doesn't have the same kick as the other 2. Bt777 has a bit less feel than all of them and doesn't have that same kick either (maybe Because I can't Feel it as much), but it has more than bt555. I played around with AE and Swat today and they do play almost the same. Swat was maybe slightly more direct. I shot more in the net with Swat though. Was slightly more difficult to open up. Sometimes when hitting straight on the ball, I got a slightly dead or cardboard'ish feel. I guess this is due to the combo of the harder layers in a thin 7 ply blade. That's how it felt at least. Overall I prefer AE to Swat, since it's sligthly easier to play with. Bt777 over Swat as well. Has similar through to AE, so easier to open up with. It's funny though, Stiga mentions AE as being their best-selling blade in Japan, whereas Swat IS the best-selling blade in Japan. Hmmm, is that a coinsidence? Sendt fra min SM-A202F med Tapatalk |
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