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Hi guys,
I have been seeing some blades, mostly andro blades. I have a few blades in mind,
andro® HI LOOM OFF
andro® CS V CARBON OFF++
andro® TREIBER Z OFF
I am a bit confused which blade to pick and do not know exactly how they are different. I have heard great things about "andro® TREIBER Z OFF". But according to megaspin andro have newer blades than that. Do you think "andro® HI LOOM OFF" or "andro® CS V CARBON OFF++" will be a better alternative for "TREIBER Z"?

Newer blades are not necessarily better. I would more likely pick a blade that's been around for a while and has some good reviews.
Why restrict your choices to Andro?. Plenty of other good stuff around I heard that many of the older Andro blades were under-size, which always put me off Andro. Not sure if the new stuff is more regular size though.

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What is your standard of play, they are all pretty fast blades and might not suit your style.

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I have used the andro kinetic supreme kiso hinok off - blaðe. It's owned by an ex-team mate of mine and it was relatively easy and nice to use. A criticism of the blaðe was that it had a small sweet spot relative to other carbon blaðes and my mate had a wrap on the handle since it found the straight handle too small. From the reviews of the triber z off it refers back to that blaðe as possibly a follow on from it. The kinetic supremes hinoki is now discontinued.

If you are looking for a decent blaðe that would be priced around the Andro blaðes that you're looking at and you're ready for a carbon blaðe the timo boll spirit butterfly blaðe would be worth looking at if you're OK with a 90 gram weight. There is the TB ALC at 85 gram but personally I wasn't mad about it. The andro blaðes are nicely finished but I'm not too sure I would buy one. Can't think of anyone bar my ex-teammate who would be using one.

Also if you see anything described as OFF+ or OFF++ i would probably steer clear of them. Elite players stick with OFF or OFF- blaðes. For developing players too fast a blaðe can develop a bad habit of half stroking the ball.

Thanks guys
I am not restricting my self to andro. It is just that I have $130 budget for my blade.

An I am open to suggestions. I play a bit aggressively. But you guys are right about using the fast blades. I should pick an off blade. Because with my current blade sometimes I have to play a half shot to put the ball in board.

The decision process in my mind is
1. What general speed to control ratio do I want.
2. All wood vs carbon vs modified carbon-acrylate other
3. Hard vs. Soft
4. Flex vs. Stiff
5. Price.

Great guidance,

1. defiantly control: 90+ speed 75-85 (All+ / Off)
2. I don't have much clue here the blade I am using is a 3ply with carbon, which seems a bit fast for me.
3. Medium but more toward softer
4. A bit flexy
5. price < $130

How about the following blades?

Butterfly Innerforce Layer AL https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=b-innerforce-l-al
Butterfly Hadraw VK https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=b-hadraw-vk
Andro HiLoom https://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=andro-hiloom

Get a Yinhe N11, only $11 or so..

(And if you don't like it you still have $119 left over to spend on something else... )

Iskandar

Iskandar, any idea how N-11 is different from N-10? That's what I'm using now, coming full circle in the last 2 years or so.

P.S. Apologies for thread hijack.

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To the OP.

You have mentioned that the blade you are currently using seems a bit fast for you - 3 ply with carbon (3 + 2 I take it). And it looks like the main reason you want a new blade is because you want more control.

What rubbers are you currently using and how thick are they?

And what blade is it?

The N-10 is quite a bit heavier. An acquaintance has one, haven't hit much with it. The N-11 weighs very close to 80g and is about 6.5mm thick. Don't know why I like the N-11 so much, I keep going back to it. It's proved to be rather fast compared to, say, the Nittaku Septear, the Stiga Allround Classic, the Yinhe W-6. Great touch for over the table play, nice feel for loops, but I like it mainly for the crisp drives and kills.

Iskandar

I think I will go with Innerforce Layer AL. It seem slow enough with good control. I might pick hexer duro with this.

If you can try out a blade before you buy it - that would be the ideal situation. Have never tried a IF AL but it's probably in stark contrast to a IF ZLC which has tons of feedback / vibration but for most it's too fast a blade.
At least the IF AL has limba as it's outer pile.
Would be interested to hear how you get on with your choice of blade.

I would agree in the case of expensive blades. In the case of cheap blades, heck, BUY FIRST..

Iskandar (who has two tote bags full of cheap blades..)

I am looking for an all+ blade with high control. How about Andro Temper Tech ALL+. It has some good review. And a lot cheaper