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Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition and Stiga Clipper Wood are both 7-ply all wood OFF blades. Both have top Limba-Ayous- 3ply Ayous core composition.

Force Pro Black Edition:
+ straight handle has better shape and neck finishing;
+ spinnier (more dwell-time), rejects higher;
+ faster with more curvy topspin makes it perform better in first attack;
+ costs less, looks imo better;
+ smoother and harder surface makes removing rubbers easier;
- worse control in blocking, more tricky service receive make the blade worse in allround style;
- despite of better look and finishing my blade has uneven plies composition between sides: 1) one side had much thicker top ply the other is almost invisibly thin; 2) the colour of red plies is different that mean they are probably cut from different wood exemplars;
- better and more sensitive player then me thinking that the blade lucks feeling and feedback. Not a problem for me personally.

Stiga Clipper Wood Classic (straight):
+ less spin sensitivity in short game;
+ deeper ball hold playing away from the table (hard to describe, not sure that it is a fact or just personal feeling), potentially more powerful and spinnier with bigger strokes;
+ softer overall feel, more pleasant;
+ definitely more solid block and precise flat hit, hard to describe but it feels so;
+ I played with a couple of these blades for long, they survived several edge contacts with table. They spot of contact looked brutal, thin top plies delaminated but the blades survived as a whole. Some non mentioned blades broke completely in similar situations. Edge tape is highly recommended;
- the handle needs manual cutting in two places, otherwise immediate calluses: on thumb, below middle finger, and partially below ring finger. I hold my racket very deep but not many other blade's handles perform so badly for me;
- top ply is softer, more grainier, thinner -- that is fine but it probably makes the blade more fragile. I fear it makes the need to buy new blades more often;
- raw finishing for a relatively expensive blade;

Resume. I was looking for an original Clipper substitute with similar playability but without mentioned above disadvantages.

Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition is not such blade. It is different in important playing properties.

Nice review and comparison!
Have you tried the Avalox P700? That might be closer to the Clipper.

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Yinhe pd437 is close to clipper cr

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Never seen any Avalox blade.

My Tibhar weights 85g, one of my spare Stiga (not tested with the same rubbers, but I feel both my blades are similar during play) 90g. Total thickness is almost identical, each ply thickness is also similar, blades dimensions are also similar. But Stiga is a bit slower, much softer, but with less dwell time (a plus for blocker and counter hitter). Illogical.

Tried Black Edition again with KO Pro 1.5. Did not like it at all. Bad control in all elements. Rigid feeling.
Have switched to Sanwei Fextra 7 as it is a very close to the original Stiga Clipper Wood feel I enjoy.

spin sensitivity is property of rubber, not blade

I do not like Tibhar Samsonov Force Pro Black Edition because I play medium-hard rubbers and the blade does not play well with them (in my hands).

Discontinued but still widely available Sanwei Fextra 7 is very similar to the modern Stiga Clipper Wood of the close weight. I cannot find any difference during play test. Both blades are perfect (I do not know any better) for LP SpinLord Dornenglanz ox and MP Dr. Neubauer K.O. Pro 1.5 I played for several years.