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Personally I'd argue that sponge and topsheet together matter more.

I tried playing with just sponge once... didn't do so well.

Seriously though - has anybody every actually tried one of these rubbers? Even just once?

For that matter, does anyone here even know of someone who uses coloured rubbers? I'd happily go ask them what they think and if it makes any difference, but literally nobody I know who plays the game uses them.

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Like the difference between black and red sheets, I expect the differences to be subtle rather than glaring. Anyone know yet what the pink rubber Bernie Szocs was using?

Iskandar

I partially agree. But - as already said before - there _are_ differences, eg between black and red. Because of the different mix for the top sheet that simply gives the color. So not only a question of the spong.

I tested this and can confirm for LP such as Dtecs Grass green vs black vs red in OX - so no sponge at all. But the all have differences. Biggest difference is green. (Anyone playing the Dtecs Grass should try!)

Same difference is Kamikaze green!

And I *bet* this is also valid for the inverted rubbers!

Thanks a bunch for confirming this.

Can you explain how the green OX rubber you mentioned is different from the Red or the Black? Is it a big difference?

Also, is the difference a benefit or a hinderance? From your comment it seems to me you're saying the green rubber is better than the Black or the Red? Is this correct?

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Imho the green version is a little bit harder and offers more control than black and red. Speed is somehow similar.

Most probably it was the Tibhar Quantum X.

This is irrelevant, of course (like most of what Igor posts), since the matter at hand is the differences in properties between TOPSHEETS (er, "Topshits") of different color. Who cares whether the sponge "rules the game" or not, since it's going to be the same sponge in any case.



Ah! Probably time to go look at the screen captures from that match again and compare "headstamps"..

Iskandar

Check this:

https://twitter.com/spinnier_com/status/1384913643867934722

Kamikaze Green

Is there anywhere / anyone online who maintains a list of rubbers available in alternate colours (outside of the ITTF LARC list that is?)

Still curious about what alternate colour rubbers are out there and how they play, but can't be bothered looking through massive lists of rubbers by manufacturer to see which ones are/are not hugely popular.

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Valid since today are those rubbers (according to ITTF list):

Brand Product Color Pimple Type Approval Code
Andro GTT R,B,Bu,P In 03-035
Andro Good R,B,Bu,G,P,V In 03-036
Andro Hexer Grip R,B,G In 03-043
Andro Hexer Powergrip R,B,G In 03-044
Andro Rasanter R53 R,B,G In 03-047
Andro Rasanter R48 R,B,G In 03-049
Andro Rasanter R45 R,B,G In 03-051
Blütenkirsche KKT 911 R,B,G Long 212-003
Blütenkirsche KKT 110 R,B,G Out 212-004
Blütenkirsche KKT 119 R,B,G Out 212-005
Blütenkirsche KKT Sakura R,B,G,P In 212-006
Blütenkirsche KKT Three Nine R,B,G In 212-007
Decathlon Pongori TTRB 100 Spin R,B,P In 189-002
Der Materialspezialist Kamikaze R,B,G Long 118-025
Der Materialspezialist Firestorm R,B,G Out 118-027
Donic Acuda S1 R,B,Bu,P In 21-011
Donic Bluestorm Z1 R,B,Bu In 21-049
Donic Bluestorm Z2 R,B,Bu In 21-050
Donic Bluestorm Z3 R,B,Bu In 21-051
Donic Bluestorm Z1 Turbo R,B,Bu In 21-052
Donic Desto F1 R,B,Bu,P,V In -
Double Happiness / DHS Hurricane 9 R,B,Bu,G,P,V In 24-055
Gewo Thunderball2 R,B,V In 29-004
Gewo Return Pro R,B,Bu In 29-008
Gewo Neoflexx R,B,G In 29-018
Gewo Nexxus El Pro Super Select B,G In 29-024
Joola Dynaryz ACC R,B,V In 40-036
Joola Dynaryz AGR R,B,V In 40-037
Joola Dynaryz CMD R,B,V In 40-038
Joola Rhyzen CMD R,B,Bu In 40-039
Joola Micron R,B,Bu,G In 40-041
Joola Rhyzen Ice R,B,Bu In 40-044
Joola Rhyzen Fire R,B,Bu In 40-045
Lion 5 Stars R,B,V In 46-007
Lion Trapper R,B,V Long 46-015
Lion Trapper SP R,B,V Long 46-018
Pimplepark Wobbler R,B,Bu Long 163-001
Prasidha Frankfurt R,B,V In
Prasidha Twister 8338 R,B,Bu In
Sauer & Troeger Hellfire-X R,B,G,V Long 130-009
Spinlord Zeitgeist R,B,Bu Long 108-004
Spinlord Stachelfeuer R,B,Bu Long 108-005
Spinlord Irbis R,B,Bu In 108-007
Spinlord Minotaur R,B,Bu Long 108-028
Spinlord Gepard R,B,Bu Out 108-029
Stiga Star*** R,B,Bu In 68-045
Stiga Star***** R,B,Bu In 68-047
Sunflex Ice Breaker R,B,Bu Long 69-004
Sunflex Mogul R,B,G In 69-010
Sunflex Zenith R,B,P In 69-016
Sunflex Splinter R,B,G Out 69-017
Tibhar Quantum X R,B,Bu,P In 74-031
Tibhar Grass D. TecS R,B,G Long
Victas V > 15 Extra R,B,Bu In 117-011
Victas Ventus Limber R,B,P In 117-025
Victas Ventus Stiff R,B,P In 117-026
Victas Ventus Extra R,B,P In 117-027
Victas V>20 Double Extra R,B,P In 117-049
Victas V>22 Double Extra R,B,Bu In 117-050
Victas Ventus Regular a R,B,Bu,P In 117-051
Xiom Vega X R,B,P In 79-063

So still no Butterfly.

Mostly European brands too by the look of it.

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New quarter - additional rubbers with the new colours:

Long pips:

Brand Product Color Pimple Type Approval Code
Blütenkirsche KKT 911 R,B,G Long 212-003
Der Materialspezialist Kamikaze R,B,G Long 118-025
Der Materialspezialist Spectre R,B,Bu,G,P,V Long 118-035
Giant Dragon Dragon Talon R,B,G,V Long 30-012
Lion Trapper R,B,V Long 46-015
Lion Trapper SP R,B,V Long 46-018
Milky Way Moxa 955 R,B,Bu,G Long 49-015
Pimplepark Wobbler R,B,Bu Long 163-001
Sauer & Troeger Hellfire-X R,B,G,V Long 130-009
Spinlord Zeitgeist R,B,Bu Long 108-004
Spinlord Stachelfeuer R,B,Bu Long 108-005
Spinlord Dornenglanz R,B,Bu Long 108-006
Spinlord Minotaur R,B,Bu Long 108-028
Sunflex Ice Breaker R,B,Bu Long 69-004
Tibhar Grass D. TecS R,B,G Long

Antis (!):

Brand Product Color Pimple Type Approval Code
Barna Original Super Glanti R,B,G Anti 193-007
Der Materialspezialist Anti Speed R,B,Bu Anti 118-022

Short pips:

Brand Product Color Pimple Type Approval Code
Blütenkirsche KKT 110 R,B,G Out 212-004
Blütenkirsche KKT 119 R,B,G Out 212-005
Der Materialspezialist Firestorm R,B,G Out 118-027
Der Materialspezialist Spinfire R,B,Bu,G,P,V Out 118-038
Giant Dragon Blast R,B,Bu,P Out 30-015
Meteor 845 R,B,Bu Out 48-004
Spinlord Gepard R,B,Bu Out 108-029
Sunflex Splinter R,B,G Out 69-017

Pips inverted:

Brand Product Color Pimple Type Approval Code
Andro GTT R,B,Bu,P In 03-035
Andro Good R,B,Bu,G,P,V In 03-036
Andro Rasanter R42 R,B,G In 03-039
Andro Rasanter R47 R,B,G In 03-041
Andro Hexer Grip R,B,G In 03-043
Andro Hexer Powergrip R,B,G In 03-044
Andro Rasanter R53 R,B,G In 03-047
Andro Rasanter R48 R,B,G In 03-049
Andro Rasanter R45 R,B,G In 03-051
Blütenkirsche KKT Sakura R,B,G,P,Bu In 212-006
Blütenkirsche KKT Three Nine R,B,G,Bu In 212-007
Decathlon Pongori TTRB 100 Spin R,B,P In 189-002
Der Materialspezialist Sabotage R,B,G,P In 118-036
Donic Baracuda R,B,V In 21-006
Donic Acuda S1 R,B,Bu,P In 21-011
Donic Acuda S2 R,B,V In 21-012
Donic Bluestorm Z1 R,B,Bu In 21-049
Donic Bluestorm Z2 R,B,Bu In 21-050
Donic Bluestorm Z3 R,B,Bu In 21-051
Donic Bluestorm Z1 Turbo R,B,Bu In 21-052
Donic Desto F1 R,B,Bu,P,V In -
Double Happiness / DHS Hurricane 9 R,B,Bu,G,P,V In 24-055
Gewo Thunderball2 R,B,V In 29-004
Gewo Return Pro R,B,Bu In 29-008
Gewo Neoflexx R,B,G In 29-018
Gewo Nexxus El Pro Super Select B,G In 29-024
Gewo Mega Flex Control R,B,Bu In -
Giant Dragon Superveloce V12 R,B,G,P In 30-011
Giant Dragon Commander R,B,G,P In 30-018
Giant Dragon Storm R,B,Bu,V In 30-019
Giant Dragon Future R,B,Bu,V In 30-020
Joola Dynaryz ACC R,B,V In 40-036
Joola Dynaryz AGR R,B,V In 40-037
Joola Dynaryz CMD R,B,V In 40-038
Joola Rhyzen CMD R,B,Bu In 40-039
Joola Micron R,B,Bu,G In 40-041
Joola Rhyzen Ice R,B,Bu In 40-044
Joola Rhyzen Fire R,B,Bu In 40-045
Lion 5 Stars R,B,V In 46-007
Milky Way Moon R,B,Bu,G,V In 49-003
Prasidha Frankfurt R,B,V In
Prasidha Twister 8338 R,B,Bu In
Sanwei Gear Hyper R,B,Bu In 62-020
Spinlord Irbis R,B,Bu In 108-007
Stiga Star*** R,B,Bu In 68-045
Stiga Star***** R,B,Bu In 68-047
Sunflex Mogul R,B,G In 69-010
Sunflex Zenith R,B,P In 69-016
Tibhar Quantum X R,B,Bu,P,G,V In 74-031
Tibhar Quantum X Pro R,B,Bu,G In 74-039
Tuttle Beijing R,B,Bu,G,P In 96-001
Tuttle President G20 R,B,Bu,G,P In 96-019
Victas V > 15 Extra R,B,Bu In 117-011
Victas Ventus Limber R,B,P In 117-025
Victas Ventus Stiff R,B,P In 117-026
Victas Ventus Extra R,B,P In 117-027
Victas V>20 Double Extra R,B,P In 117-049
Victas V>22 Double Extra R,B,Bu In 117-050
Victas Ventus Regular a R,B,Bu,P In 117-051
Xiom Vega X R,B,P In 79-063
Xiom Jekyll&Hyde X 47.5 R,B,P In 79-071
Xiom Jekyll&Hyde V 47.5 R,B,P In 79-073

Still no Butterfly.

Some of the rubbers just have the ITTF approval but are not available by today. Think the will appear in Q2.

There's a Hurricane 9 now? Interesting..

Iskandar

I believe that Hurricane 9 has been on the LARC for a while but it has not come out yet.

Maybe somewhere in this year it will be released.

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