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PostPosted: 13 Jan 2021, 22:50 
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charmander defender wrote:
Hi,D-A! Am I under the right impression that you will stop playing with anti due to your physical problems? will you play again with pips? were you just playing with pips for fun while recovering? . It would be sad for you to stop playing with anti as you have very well got the hang of the anti play . Also,your observations on antis have been very helpful indeed.Great job!!!


Hi CH! During a longer paus from competitions and while waiting for blades from Re-impact to try, I used medium pips for a month or two. Also, this was a way to get more speed in my game, make it more fluid (it is very much start and stop with the anti). And it was a way to use my BH another way and to force myself to use FH more, not to block with BH far to the FH side. I was hoping this would affect my injuries in neck and lower back, and perhaps it did. I do feel a little better in my back now, but the pain I have (especially after practice) comes more from sitting still during days. And this is due to Corona, I attend no meetings in other rooms now, everyting is through the screen of the computer now and this makes my work almost completely free from movement - very bad for me. And I have difficulties finding a good working position here at home.

So, I am not going to change to pips now (maybe some time later, don't know). I am still trying different setups and blades and antis and medium pips, mostly for fun. I went to balsa to get a lighter setup and to make looping against back spin less demanding for my back, but I am not sure that is the best path for me. We'll see... The SuperGlanti works very good on some balsa baldes while Störkraft works better on stiff woods (no carbon). I am hoping for a blade from Achim that has the FH of Chevanti-Chavelier and a BH side more like the blade my friend has (medium thick balsa with rather thick outer layer of walnut).

Also, I am wainting for a blade from Loukov: https://loukov.org/bois/
It has a 13 mm balsa core with Koto on one side and Larix Decidua on the other side. I am very curious :)

And I am waiting for some new invetions from Achim where he tries to make the Chevanti more the way I would like it to be perfect for my style of table tennis.

Take care and stay safe!

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PostPosted: 14 Jan 2021, 06:43 
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Been browsing https://loukov.org/bois/ and the description of the blade features reminds me of Joola R1's :

Ces bois sont plus grands et plus épais que la moyenne ce qui leur confère un effet catapulte, un contrôle et une adhérence sans précédent.

La balle reste plus longtemps sur la raquette car le bois est plus tendre. En effet, à l’instar des revêtements, la balle s’enfonce plus ce qui augmente le contrôle mais aussi la rotation, l’épaisseur, quant à elle, augmente la vitesse de jeu.

from Joola R1 :

An extremely thick Balsa core defines the character of the JOOLA R*1. It provides a totally new, controlled playing feeling, in conjunction with extremely high speed. The duration of the ball contact is considerably longer than with conventional blades - the ball, so to speak, buries itself into the blade. This provides excellent ball feeling.


Joola R1 works for pips, maybe it could be great for anti .


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PostPosted: 14 Jan 2021, 06:55 
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charmander defender wrote:
Been browsing https://loukov.org/bois/ and the description of the blade features reminds me of Joola R1's :

Ces bois sont plus grands et plus épais que la moyenne ce qui leur confère un effet catapulte, un contrôle et une adhérence sans précédent.

La balle reste plus longtemps sur la raquette car le bois est plus tendre. En effet, à l’instar des revêtements, la balle s’enfonce plus ce qui augmente le contrôle mais aussi la rotation, l’épaisseur, quant à elle, augmente la vitesse de jeu.

from Joola R1 :

An extremely thick Balsa core defines the character of the JOOLA R*1. It provides a totally new, controlled playing feeling, in conjunction with extremely high speed. The duration of the ball contact is considerably longer than with conventional blades - the ball, so to speak, buries itself into the blade. This provides excellent ball feeling.


Joola R1 works for pips, maybe it could be great for anti .
I believe I tried to buy that Joola blade 6 months ago but could not find it, or that it was no longer in production. The outer ply is also very important for it to work with anti. Should not be too thin, or too soft I think. But I am not sure :)

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PostPosted: 21 Jan 2021, 18:02 
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A few days ago I tried my blade from Loukov very briefly. I glued a 1,2 mm Super Glanti to one side (no rubber on the other) and tried a few blocks. I tried both sides that way and the Koto (I think it is Koto, the light and thin side anyway) was a little better than the Larix Decidua (little thicker) gave the ball a higher throw and less spin. But it is bouncy and when the ball arrived with some speed it flew away pretty fast (1,6 mm Super Glanti would cure that) and with little spin. But the worst part is that the ball's throw angle got higher with more impact. It is good that ball can be kept low at low impact and spinny slow loops had good back spin after blocks, but if you have to change bat angle a lot depending on incomming speed it wil be difficult.

Anyway, I removed the thin Koto layer and realized that the balsa core was put together from several pieces :(.

I attached photos of the balsa core.

Then I glued some Walnut as outer ply :). I attached pics of that too, so you can see just how thick this modified Loukov is. Tonight I will see if this version does better in terms of throw angle and spin reversal.


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2021, 07:47 
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Well, the new outer layer was clearly better than the Koto! But the blade is still too fast and bouncy. I think the balsa is very light and not dense så the catapult is very large and that throws the ball a little too high. Also, the handle is too small so I had troubles holding the bat in a comfortable way

So I spend the night with the Chevanti and Pluto instead. I had changed the FH rubber to a softer slower one and suddenly the sound was very loud! I hit through the sponge :). It was very difficult to play and the top aheet (H3-50 soft) was not very tacky. So I chaged back to Jupiter II, much better :).

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