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PostPosted: 13 Oct 2021, 23:59 
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Thanks, that's very kind :) I agree that the SPs don't feel too uncomfortable, but I do think I've got quite a long way to go.

Most of those clips were quite a lot more attacking than I usually like to play. Typically I would much rather chop, and I tend only to attack in games where either my opponent won't, or I can't (e.g. player is too good against defence) but as you can see from those clips, James isn't a big looper. I was hoping to get some proper chopper footage against my other teammate but he wasn't at the club on Monday evening.

I've just contacted one of our league's best players - Graeme Barella, as seen in one or two videos in this thread (County finals etc) - as I know he's been getting into coaching pretty heavily recently. I'll try to get a fortnightly session with him, do some multiball and do some "real ball" drills where he loops at me etc. This could help to take my game to the next level as typically when I practice I don't have access to that kind of player.

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Thanks, that's very kind :) I agree that the SPs don't feel too uncomfortable, but I do think I've got quite a long way to go.

Most of those clips were quite a lot more attacking than I usually like to play. Typically I would much rather chop, and I tend only to attack in games where either my opponent won't, or I can't (e.g. player is too good against defence) but as you can see from those clips, James isn't a big looper. I was hoping to get some proper chopper footage against my other teammate but he wasn't at the club on Monday evening.

I've just contacted one of our league's best players - Graeme Barella, as seen in one or two videos in this thread (County finals etc) - as I know he's been getting into coaching pretty heavily recently. I'll try to get a fortnightly session with him, do some multiball and do some "real ball" drills where he loops at me etc. This could help to take my game to the next level as typically when I practice I don't have access to that kind of player.


I wish my game was as smooth, you don't seem stressed at all. Would be interesting to see more chopping. I briefly tried spectol a few years ago but found chopping hard. Been thinking about trying it again, maybe it could work with better technique or using more side spin chops for the really spinny loops.

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PostPosted: 14 Oct 2021, 18:31 
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That's a real compliment coming from a better version of myself, thanks Magnus :)

My more attacking teammate will be at the club tonight, so I'll collar him to get some footage of my chopping game. Unfortunately none of the players I practice against are great loopers, but next week I'll be recording my coaching footage against a really consistent, spinny looper.

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PostPosted: 14 Oct 2021, 18:51 
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I agree with Magnus though you look quite comfortable and chilled when playing. Magnus is stronger but he is more erratic. Neither a good thing or bad thing though

But your latest video especially does look like you could have a cup of tea while playing :lol:

Looking forward to more. Especially seeing you pressured by a good looper etc. I think you will be fine and probably surprise yourself actually

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PostPosted: 14 Oct 2021, 19:45 
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I suspect it might just be a styles thing. I don't really expect James to attack. When he does... I quite often don't get to the ball :D

I will probably look a lot more frantic against players who loop regularly!

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Ndragon wrote:
But your latest video especially does look like you could have a cup of tea while playing :lol:


While signing autographs :).

I think my defensive game would be improved by stressing less. But guess it's a style thing too. Chen Weixing reached a pretty high level looking frantic compared to Gionis or Joo.

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magnuseffect wrote:
Ndragon wrote:
But your latest video especially does look like you could have a cup of tea while playing :lol:


While signing autographs :).

I think my defensive game would be improved by stressing less. But guess it's a style thing too. Chen Weixing reached a pretty high level looking frantic compared to Gionis or Joo.


Chen is still my favourite player! I like watching both styles though but then I am biased to defensive players haha

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PostPosted: 15 Oct 2021, 17:30 
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magnuseffect wrote:
Chen Weixing reached a pretty high level looking frantic compared to Gionis or Joo.

Against good players, Joo looks frantic too. Watch him against Ma Long etc. He never looks like he's in control (probably because he isn't). Against some of the European loopers though, yeah, he looks at ease.

I got some more footage last night, certainly looking more frantic as I lose :D Will tidy it up and upload today.

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PostPosted: 15 Oct 2021, 22:10 
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Here we go:



I lost 3-2. It was a close game. You can see from the footage though that I repeatedly lost points on simple pushes.

I worked out against my next opponent that I'd been using a really tight wrist without realising :^) As soon as I got the tension out, my consistency increased tenfold. I usually beat Gareth when I use my LPs, but then I don't usually give him ~5 points per end of unforced errors. I also usually use more than 1 serve!

The match wasn't great to watch, but the final end (starting at 8m13s) had some really good rallies.

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He said Frantic lol I saw another cup of tea in his hand :lol:

No but in all seriousness once you warmed up I didn't see many points where you were outplayed tbh. You gave up quite a few free points due to errors which in time will be gone anyway. Your diversity is good though as your pushes are right up there danger wise to your chops.

H3 NEO FH? Boosted or not? The FH chops looked quite nasty

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PostPosted: 16 Oct 2021, 00:57 
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Yeah, for sure, had I pushed the way I pushed later that evening (this was my first touch of a ball, with a really brief warmup), I think it would've looked quite comfortable. It's good to see the bad bits though, that's how we get better.

Yeah the H3N is boosted, but only a single light layer of Seamoon because the rubber is about ~30 months old (although, due to pandemic, not used very often) and it felt completely dead. I tend not to boost because when it starts to wear off, I start to miss forehands and it becomes a psychological battle of technique vs. equipment.

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PostPosted: 16 Oct 2021, 03:41 
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Yh I much prefer to see all points except of course service/receive errors. I just learn a lot more from it, feels more human as well :D

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