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Author: | JulianTT [ 01 Dec 2021, 06:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
JulianTT wrote: If you could prototype a shakehand OFF blade that is closer in shape to a jpen that we can discuss the dimensions together, I would be really excited to test it! It is possible, but it will take time. 2-3 months probably. Before pandemic started I moved to new country (Switzerland) and here I do not have the tools to finish a blade. Here I have only veneer and a press to make the ply. But we can discuss about that, as a start.[/quote] Cool, I'm in Switzerland too. Which city? |
Author: | adyy [ 01 Dec 2021, 08:16 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
JulianTT wrote: Cool, I'm in Switzerland too. Which city? Zurich |
Author: | lasta [ 01 Dec 2021, 23:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
adyy wrote: lasta wrote: Good to see you back Adyy. Thanks! lasta wrote: What's the specs on the 4th batch from the left? The 7 plies. 6.6mm, 84-87 gramms, 1350-1400 Hz, Clipper style blades. But they have the center layer not from ayous and are glued with a softglue to have some flex and a bit less speed. Also the handles will be glued with a flexible glue to help them flex. They were designed with spin and duell in mind. Soft glue? Flex Spin? Dwell? If there is a thumbs down button, I would press it! Haha |
Author: | adyy [ 31 Jan 2022, 03:53 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
And the blades got handles. Some badges are still to be applied and they will be ready for play. These lot of 4, are combi-defensive. Model name: Combi XDef Structure: limba - walnut - balsa (5mm) - balsa - balsa - ayous Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~9.0mm Weight/Speed: 63.4g/ 1701 hz, 64.4g/ 1593 hz, 66.6g/ 1614 hz, 66.4g/ 1701 hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_154725.jpg [ 778.89 KiB | Viewed 15870 times ] Attachment: IMG_20220123_154752.jpg [ 678.71 KiB | Viewed 15870 times ] These lot of 3, are defensive, somewhat inspired by Butterfly DiodeV Model name: DefenseV Structure: anegre - ayous - ayous - ayous - anegre Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~5.8-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 78.8g/1141hz, 79.4g/1098hz, 78.9g/1119hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_154847.jpg [ 763.03 KiB | Viewed 15870 times ] These lot of 2, also defensive, with a 3.0mm horizontally placed balsa core and thick 1.4mm spruce outer layer of 1.4mm. Model name: FlexDefense Structure: spruce - fiberglass - balsa - fiberglass - spruce Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~5.9mm Weight/Speed: 65.8g/1270hz, 68.7/1291hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_154952.jpg [ 855.02 KiB | Viewed 15870 times ] These 4 (but please ignore the 1st on the left), are using curled mahogany on the outer layer, similar in structure to the Victas VKMO. Model name: CutSlicer Structure: mahogany(curled) - mahogany - ayous - mahogany - mahogany(curled) Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~ 5.7-5.8mm Weight/Speed: 78g/1076hz, 80.6g/1055hz, 81.9g/1033hz, 83.2g/1141hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_155055.jpg [ 678.94 KiB | Viewed 15870 times ] And last, another 3 defensive blades. Balsa core, built to be light and with a hard/stiff outer. Model name: SharpSlicer Structure: koto - linden - balsa (4mm) - linden - koto Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~6.3mm Weight/Speed: 65.03g/1378hz, 65.16g/1356hz, 65.9g/1378hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163559.jpg [ 759.42 KiB | Viewed 15870 times ] *Later I will edit the post with thickness and weight values* |
Author: | adyy [ 31 Jan 2022, 06:05 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
These next builds are ALL+ / Offensive ALL WOOD A lot of 3 blades, 5 layer-spruce wood. The veneer (all 5 layers) was sourced from Germany and the top-ply is one piece, not jointed. Model name: SP5 Structure: Spruce - Spruce - Spruce(3mm) - Spruce - Spruce Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~6.3-6.4mm Weight/Speed: 86.09g/1507hz, 86.6g/1528hz, 84.97g/1507hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163448.jpg [ 783.7 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] Another lot of 4 blades, 5 layer-spruce wood, but they are thicker and faster than the ones above. The veneer is sourced from EastEurope (Romania) and the top-ply is jointed. Model name: SP5+Plus Structure: Spruce - Spruce - Spruce(3.5-3.8mm) - Spruce - Spruce Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~ 6.65-6.85mm Weight/Speed: 86g/1658hz, 89.6g/1722hz, 86.8g/1787hz, 89.9g/1701hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162537.jpg [ 683.76 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] Lot of 2 blades, with european walnut top-ply (not american walnut) and an austrian pine second ply. These 2 layers make the blade to feel fast and repulsive, with a quick ball feedback. Model name: ValiosaurusLight Structure: Walnut - AustrianPine - Ayous - AustrianPine - Walnut Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~5.8-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 85.7g/1227hz, 85.9g/1227hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162924.jpg [ 634.29 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] 3 blades, Clipper style, but with a center layer a bit thinner than the other 2 layers in the core. The purpose was to obtain a thinner blade with a little less bounce and a bit better feedback. The handles were also glued with an elastic glue go help increase the flex feel. Model name: Spinnaker Structure: Limba - Ayous -Ayous(1.5mm) - Basswood(1mm) - Ayous(1.5mm) - Ayous - Limba Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~6.4-6.6mm Weight/Speed: 80.9g/1335hz, 85.91g/1378hz, 87.57/1399hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162754.jpg [ 835.87 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] WOOD + Synthetic Fiber 2 blades made using a structure inspired from Joola Kool. Model name: MMSpeed Structure: pine - texalium - ayous - balsa - ayous - texalium - pine Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~10.5-11.0mm Weight/Speed: 90.5g/1507hz, 90.6g/1464hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163253.jpg [ 749.45 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] 2 blades with an inner carbon-glass layer and a Koto outer layer. Model name: SharpHit Structure: koto - spruce - carbon/glass - kiri - carbon/glass - spruce - koto Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~5.7-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 77.8g/1442hz, 80.5g/1464hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163137.jpg [ 564.25 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] 2 blades Viscaria/TBS style, but using carbon/glass instead of ALC. Model name: SpinHit Structure: koto - carbon/glass - ayous - kiri - ayous - carbon/glass - koto Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~5.75-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 79.7g/1614hz, 80.54g/1614hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162845.jpg [ 668.67 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] 4 blades, typicall asian structure, but using spruce not hinoki. Model name: EuropeanExperiment Structure: Spruce(1.4mm) - Carbon - Kiri(4mm) - Carbon - Spruce(1.4mm) Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~6.9-7.1mm Weight/Speed: 82.8g/2067hz, 83.6g/1981hz, 84.4g/2088hz, 86.4g/2045hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162635.jpg [ 736.13 KiB | Viewed 15863 times ] *Later I will edit the post with thickness and weight values* |
Author: | Sami [ 03 Feb 2022, 01:03 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
Wonderful blades! you really are creative.Well done !!! |
Author: | adyy [ 05 Feb 2022, 04:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
Sami wrote: Wonderful blades! you really are creative.Well done !!! Thanks! |
Author: | adyy [ 13 Feb 2022, 07:59 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
adyy wrote: And the blades got handles. Some badges are still to be applied and they will be ready for play. These lot of 4, are combi-defensive. Structure: limba - walnut - balsa (5mm) - balsa - balsa - ayous Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~9.0mm Weight/Speed: 63.4g/ 1701 hz, 64.4g/ 1593 hz, 66.6g/ 1614 hz, 66.4g/ 1701 hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_154725.jpg [ 778.89 KiB | Viewed 15773 times ] Attachment: IMG_20220123_154752.jpg [ 678.71 KiB | Viewed 15773 times ] These lot of 3, are defensive, somewhat inspired by Butterfly DiodeV Structure: anegre - ayous - ayous - ayous - anegre Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~5.8-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 78.8g/1141hz, 79.4g/1098hz, 78.9g/1119hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_154847.jpg [ 763.03 KiB | Viewed 15773 times ] These lot of 2, also defensive, with a 3.0mm horizontally placed balsa core and thick 1.4mm spruce outer layer of 1.4mm. Structure: spruce - fiberglass - balsa - fiberglass - spruce Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~5.9mm Weight/Speed: 65.8g/1270hz, 68.7/1291hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_154952.jpg [ 855.02 KiB | Viewed 15773 times ] These 4 (but please ignore the 1st on the left), are using curled mahogany on the outer layer, similar in structure to the Victas VKMO. Structure: mahogany(curled) - mahogany - ayous - mahogany - mahogany(curled) Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~ 5.7-5.8mm Weight/Speed: 78g/1076hz, 80.6g/1055hz, 81.9g/1033hz, 83.2g/1141hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_155055.jpg [ 678.94 KiB | Viewed 15773 times ] And last, another 3 defensive blades. Balsa core, built to be light and with a hard/stiff outer. Structure: koto - linden - balsa (4mm) - linden - koto Headsize: ~166 x 155 mm Tickness: ~6.3mm Weight/Speed: 65.03g/1378hz, 65.16g/1356hz, 65.9g/1378hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163559.jpg [ 759.42 KiB | Viewed 15773 times ] As mentioned I have added tickness and weight/speed values. |
Author: | adyy [ 13 Feb 2022, 08:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
adyy wrote: These next builds are ALL+ / Offensive ALL WOOD A lot of 3 blades, 5 layer-spruce wood. The veneer (all 5 layers) was sourced from Germany and the top-ply is one piece, not jointed. Structure: Spruce - Spruce - Spruce(3mm) - Spruce - Spruce Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~6.3-6.4mm Weight/Speed: 86.09g/1507hz, 86.6g/1528hz, 84.97g/1507hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163448.jpg [ 783.7 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] Another lot of 4 blades, 5 layer-spruce wood, but they are thicker and faster than the ones above. The veneer is sourced from EastEurope (Romania) and the top-ply is jointed. Structure: Spruce - Spruce - Spruce(3.5-3.8mm) - Spruce - Spruce Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~ 6.65-6.85mm Weight/Speed: 86g/1658hz, 89.6g/1722hz, 86.8g/1787hz, 89.9g/1701hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162537.jpg [ 683.76 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] Lot of 2 blades, with european walnut top-ply (not american walnut) and an austrian pine second ply. These 2 layers make the blade to feel fast and repulsive, with a quick ball feedback. Structure: Walnut - Pine - Ayous - Pine - Walnut Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~5.8-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 85.7g/1227hz, 85.9g/1227hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162924.jpg [ 634.29 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] 3 blades, Clipper style, but with a center layer a bit thinner than the other 2 layers in the core. The purpose was to obtain a thinner blade with a little less bounce and a bit better feedback. The handles were also glued with an elastic glue go help increase the flex feel. Structure: Limba - Ayous -Ayous(1.5mm) - Basswood(1mm) - Ayous(1.5mm) - Ayous - Limba Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~6.4-6.6mm Weight/Speed: 80.9g/1335hz, 85.91g/1378hz, 87.57/1399hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162754.jpg [ 835.87 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] WOOD + Synthetic Fiber 2 blades made using a structure inspired from Joola Kool. Structure: pine - texalium - ayous - balsa - ayous - texalium - pine Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~10.5-11.0mm Weight/Speed: 90.5g/1507hz, 90.6g/1464hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163253.jpg [ 749.45 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] 2 blades with an inner carbon-glass layer and a Koto outer layer. Structure: koto - spruce - carbon/glass - kiri - carbon/glass - spruce - koto Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~5.7-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 77.8g/1442hz, 80.5g/1464hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_163137.jpg [ 564.25 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] 2 blades Viscaria/TBS style, but using carbon/glass instead of ALC. Structure: koto - carbon/glass - ayous - kiri - ayous - carbon/glass - koto Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~5.75-5.9mm Weight/Speed: 79.7g/1614hz, 8054g/1614hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162845.jpg [ 668.67 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] 4 blades, typicall asian structure, but using spruce not hinoki. Structure: Spruce(1.4mm) - Carbon - Kiri(4mm) - Carbon - Spruce(1.4mm) Headsize: ~157x150 Tickness: ~6.9-7.1mm Weight/Speed: 82.8g/2067hz, 83.6g/1981hz, 84.4g/2088hz, 86.4g/2045hz Attachment: IMG_20220123_162635.jpg [ 736.13 KiB | Viewed 15770 times ] As I mentioned earlier, I updated the post with tickness and weight/speed values. |
Author: | haggisv [ 13 Feb 2022, 12:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
They looks very professional! Do you seal/varnish your blades? Have you thought about adding some graphics to them? I don't know what sort of machine you need to do this, but I'm curious. |
Author: | charmander defender [ 14 Feb 2022, 01:45 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
haggisv wrote: They looks very professional! Do you seal/varnish your blades? Have you thought about adding some graphics to them? I don't know what sort of machine you need to do this, but I'm curious. They really look professional , with quality.Personally , I like blades with zero graphics on them. Addy sounds like a very competent manufacturer.We must congratulate any custom made blade workers |
Author: | adyy [ 14 Feb 2022, 02:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
haggisv wrote: They looks very professional! Thanks! haggisv wrote: Do you seal/varnish your blades? Some of them are varnished/sealed, some are not. For example the first batch of 4 (the "defensive" ones that are combi, with balsa core, dedicated for pips) have the limba topsheet sealed, but the ayous not sealed. But they can be fully sealed on request. I experimented with a few ways of varnishing, but this is still experiment-in-progress. I am still searching for something that hardens fast enough but not very fast, make wood fiber look more vivid and never yellow (and keep the veneer immune to UV). haggisv wrote: Have you thought about adding some graphics to them? I don't know what sort of machine you need to do this, but I'm curious. I even made some tests with various techniques trying to transfer prints from a paper to the veneer, but I was not happy with any until now. The results can be ok visually, but not so consistent from one print to the other. Next on my try-list are: - try to print directly on the blade using an inkjet printer; - laser engraving (like Andro/Nittaku/SoulSpin are doing); |
Author: | adyy [ 14 Feb 2022, 02:19 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
charmander defender wrote: haggisv wrote: They looks very professional! Do you seal/varnish your blades? Have you thought about adding some graphics to them? I don't know what sort of machine you need to do this, but I'm curious. They really look professional , with quality.Personally , I like blades with zero graphics on them. Addy sounds like a very competent manufacturer. We must congratulate any custom made blade workers Thanks CharmanderDefender! I think we spoke in the past via some PMs and 1 model was developed with our discussion in mind. Somehow I am with you regarding graphics. They will be totally hidden once you apply rubbers and they are cool only before adding rubbers. Or if you collect blades. |
Author: | lasta [ 16 Feb 2022, 12:18 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
Hi Adyy, Are you still sticking with "Balcony Made Blades"? |
Author: | adyy [ 16 Feb 2022, 20:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: building my blades |
lasta wrote: Are you still sticking with "Balcony Made Blades"? That is a very good question! I still needed a balcony to cut the blades and handles to shape. |
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