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Saw dust and glue works well if done right. Use a little glue and all the sawdust that will mix in. You want more sawdust than glue. Works with epoxy also.

Doesn't the good Dr recommend using glue on the blade and glue sheet to attach his glue sheets? Do you do this mnnb?

Saw dust and glue works well if done right. Use a little glue and all the sawdust that will mix in. You want more sawdust than glue. Works with epoxy also.

Doesn't the good Dr recommend using glue on the blade and glue sheet to attach his glue sheets? Do you do this mnnb?

Wow, that's delicate material; I guess thats's what you pay for.

Next question (and I doubt I need to ask it) do you let both sides dry fully or get eager? I think one time I didn't have the time to wait and my sponge suffered (preferable to blade though) as a result when trying to remove.

Not to derail mnnb's primary post (that's one ravaged blade, guy), but I'm scratching my head over the legality of another blade - Joola's MC1. The core has alternating lenghtwise stripes of balsa and ayous, which clearly (to me) violates the "continuous" requirement of section 2.04.05. I would have expected that a transition from one wood to another across the width of the blade would be considered a discontinous layer. No?

Definitely not a continuous layer. Better use edge tape on this baby!

Joola's ad copy: MCS-System: 3 mm thick Koto and 6mm Balsa layers of various widths are block glued and afterwards cut across for an unbelievable stabilizing middle layer.

mynamenotbob wrote:

I have to agree with you - definitely not a "continuous" layer.

I'm a bit confused about your other comment though: how does edge tape make a difference?

Tassie52 wrote:

mynamenotbob wrote:

I have to agree with you - definitely not a "continuous" layer.

I'm a bit confused about your other comment though: how does edge tape make a difference?

It hides (or disguises) that its not continuous!

Ross Leidy wrote:

Author:	hookshot [ 31 May 2011, 10:59 ]
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Saw dust and glue works well if done right. Use a little glue and all the sawdust that will mix in. You want more sawdust than glue. Works with epoxy also.

Author:	antipip [ 31 May 2011, 16:13 ]
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Doesn't the good Dr recommend using glue on the blade and glue sheet to attach his glue sheets? Do you do this mnnb?

Author:	RebornTTEvnglist [ 31 May 2011, 16:27 ]
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hookshot wrote: Saw dust and glue works well if done right. Use a little glue and all the sawdust that will mix in. You want more sawdust than glue. Works with epoxy also. This method should work fine, or even some wood-filler. Not sure if its legal by the letter of the law (ie. being a continuous layer of wood), but in spirit of the law it should make a nice flat surface. Gees, I sometimes see a waviness in rubber I've glued to a blade, it can be so hard to get absolutely flat!

Author:	haggisv [ 31 May 2011, 18:55 ]
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antipip wrote: Doesn't the good Dr recommend using glue on the blade and glue sheet to attach his glue sheets? Do you do this mnnb? Yes that's true, at least that what it says on his later rubbers, and I reckon that helps too.

Author:	UlmoGerman [ 31 May 2011, 20:02 ]
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hookshot wrote: Saw dust and glue works well if done right. Use a little glue and all the sawdust that will mix in. You want more sawdust than glue. Works with epoxy also. This is a good tip! Uli

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Author:	mynamenotbob [ 31 May 2011, 23:40 ]
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antipip wrote: Doesn't the good Dr recommend using glue on the blade and glue sheet to attach his glue sheets? Do you do this mnnb? Yes I followed all the instructions. Not only do they wreck blades, they wreck themselves when you pull them off (getting all rippled). My experience is you put these on a blade for life.

Author:	antipip [ 01 Jun 2011, 02:08 ]
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Wow, that's delicate material; I guess thats's what you pay for. Next question (and I doubt I need to ask it) do you let both sides dry fully or get eager? I think one time I didn't have the time to wait and my sponge suffered (preferable to blade though) as a result when trying to remove.

Author:	Ross Leidy [ 01 Jun 2011, 02:14 ]
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Not to derail mnnb's primary post (that's one ravaged blade, guy), but I'm scratching my head over the legality of another blade - Joola's MC1. The core has alternating lenghtwise stripes of balsa and ayous, which clearly (to me) violates the "continuous" requirement of section 2.04.05. I would have expected that a transition from one wood to another across the width of the blade would be considered a discontinous layer. No?

Author:	UlmoGerman [ 01 Jun 2011, 02:25 ]
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Also the andro blax blades. "The 6-mm thick balsa centre is strutted with 22 ajous cross veneers to promote the energy transfer" I have a damaged her and the core is discontinous Best regads Uli

Author:	mynamenotbob [ 01 Jun 2011, 03:06 ]
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antipip wrote: Wow, that's delicate material; I guess thats's what you pay for. Next question (and I doubt I need to ask it) do you let both sides dry fully or get eager? I think one time I didn't have the time to wait and my sponge suffered (preferable to blade though) as a result when trying to remove. I let the glue dry for 10 minutes for the trashed Hallmark blade I posted previously. Whatever wood the Hallmark outer layer is made of is ridiculously weak. Here's another glue sheet-wrecked Hallmark blade.

Author:	mynamenotbob [ 01 Jun 2011, 03:08 ]
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Ross Leidy wrote: Not to derail mnnb's primary post (that's one ravaged blade, guy), but I'm scratching my head over the legality of another blade - Joola's MC1. The core has alternating lenghtwise stripes of balsa and ayous, which clearly (to me) violates the "continuous" requirement of section 2.04.05. I would have expected that a transition from one wood to another across the width of the blade would be considered a discontinous layer. No? Definitely not a continuous layer. Better use edge tape on this baby! Joola's ad copy: MCS-System: 3 mm thick Koto and 6mm Balsa layers of various widths are block glued and afterwards cut across for an unbelievable stabilizing middle layer.

Author:	Tassie52 [ 01 Jun 2011, 08:23 ]
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mynamenotbob wrote: Definitely not a continuous layer. Better use edge tape on this baby! Joola's ad copy: MCS-System: 3 mm thick Koto and 6mm Balsa layers of various widths are block glued and afterwards cut across for an unbelievable stabilizing middle layer. I have to agree with you - definitely not a "continuous" layer. I'm a bit confused about your other comment though: how does edge tape make a difference?

Author:	RebornTTEvnglist [ 01 Jun 2011, 08:30 ]
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Tassie52 wrote: mynamenotbob wrote: Definitely not a continuous layer. Better use edge tape on this baby! Joola's ad copy: MCS-System: 3 mm thick Koto and 6mm Balsa layers of various widths are block glued and afterwards cut across for an unbelievable stabilizing middle layer. I have to agree with you - definitely not a "continuous" layer. I'm a bit confused about your other comment though: how does edge tape make a difference? It hides (or disguises) that its not continuous!

Author:	mynamenotbob [ 01 Jun 2011, 09:28 ]
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RebornTTEvnglist wrote: Tassie52 wrote: mynamenotbob wrote: Definitely not a continuous layer. Better use edge tape on this baby! Joola's ad copy: MCS-System: 3 mm thick Koto and 6mm Balsa layers of various widths are block glued and afterwards cut across for an unbelievable stabilizing middle layer. I have to agree with you - definitely not a "continuous" layer. I'm a bit confused about your other comment though: how does edge tape make a difference? It hides (or disguises) that its not continuous! I actually didn't even want this super fast, illegal blade. I like slow blades and had ordered an extra Toni Hold White Spot from Paddle Palace. Unfortunately I didn't open the package for several months and when I finally opened it, to my horror there was an MC1 instead (about as opposite of the White Spot as possible). Since the MC1 is supposedly good for short pips, I stupidly thought I'd try it, but I didn't like it. I wonder if someone else ordered an MC1 and got a White Spot?

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Author:	ilikepie [ 03 Jun 2011, 09:19 ]
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mynamenotbob wrote: Ross Leidy wrote: Not to derail mnnb's primary post (that's one ravaged blade, guy), but I'm scratching my head over the legality of another blade - Joola's MC1. The core has alternating lenghtwise stripes of balsa and ayous, which clearly (to me) violates the "continuous" requirement of section 2.04.05. I would have expected that a transition from one wood to another across the width of the blade would be considered a discontinous layer. No? Definitely not a continuous layer. Better use edge tape on this baby! Joola's ad copy: MCS-System: 3 mm thick Koto and 6mm Balsa layers of various widths are block glued and afterwards cut across for an unbelievable stabilizing middle layer. but it is continuous. just not horizontally.