Tactic against 3rd ball loopkillers?

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leatherback

Post subject: Re: Tactic against 3rd ball loopkillers?

Posted: 20 Feb 2016, 06:47

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Japsican wrote:

leatherback wrote:

watch your opponent. there is always more room on one side of the table. and if there isn't, push at their backhand, and if they have a crazy good backhand then push at their middle. anything too make them move even a step. more movement is better.

Awesome, thanks. Last night I was extra dilligent in pushing/chopping to where they aren't, and to their elbow. All the while twiddling. This worked brilliantly when I was concentrating, and I was "King of the Table" for just one night. (Stayed at the winners table).
One thing I did while twiddling was that I stopped being too concerned with their ball and letting that determine which side I twiddled to (for the most part) but rather I twiddled randomly, and reacted appropriately to the spin with whatever rubber happened to be up. I think reducing one variable (thinking about where to twiddle to) helped me be more consistent. I suspect I've been making my game too complicated.

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dont try to win. just try to play a beautiful game. attackers try to win.

Another wonderful pearl of wisdom! I'm going to quote you in my signature (if that's okay) as a reminder. I'll remember this when everyone around me is trying to tell me to attack everything.

I'd be honoured

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Bogeyhunter

Post subject: Re: Tactic against 3rd ball loopkillers?

Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 16:10

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For OX - study this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2aFLiHTdsU

Or Pushblocker's videos.

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Bogeyhunter

Post subject: Re: Tactic against 3rd ball loopkillers?

Posted: 21 Feb 2016, 16:28

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Or this -

Not a highly rated player but there are some good things about his game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20x_5Wzzp0

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Japsican

Post subject: Re: Tactic against 3rd ball loopkillers?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 03:02

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Lorre wrote:

What do you mean with soft players, Jap? Can you elaborate?

Sorry Lorre, I missed this. By soft players I mean the type that, tend to make low pace returns, or lobs, often without spin. Blockers and pushers with inverted, push blockers with LP. Those types. I lost to a kid that was about 1400-1500 in a tournament, who had a Seemiller style grip. He blocked all topspin shots very lightly and pushed everything else that wasn't topspin, and was very consistent at this taking little to no risk. He was destroyed by a 1700 level looper who played with a lot of pace, and won the U1900 division in the same day. I defeated the 1700 level looper in the round robin prior to that.

Soft low-pace shots just make me super uncomfortable and I make a lot of unforced errors as a chopper. I've been training against this, and making some progress, but the games are still closer than they should be.

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Japsican

Post subject: Re: Tactic against 3rd ball loopkillers?

Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 03:03

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Bogeyhunter, as a long time user of P-1R and now current user of Easy P both in 1.0mm, can you impart any additional service return wisdom?

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