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Author:  Aurelian [ 01 Jun 2020, 19:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: List of Pro & Cons of water based glues

iskandar taib wrote:
Better? I'd argue Innoglue is better. And Elmer's Rubber Cement, of course.

I wish I could get Innoglue easily.

Iskandar
It's far better and cheap, for 20€ you can have 250ml from to websites, not to mention that since it's made locally, I can have it for 6€/110ml. And it's voc free and iitf approved, being used from Canada to South Africa and China.



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Author:  iskandar taib [ 02 Jun 2020, 15:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: List of Pro & Cons of water based glues

Aurelian wrote:
iskandar taib wrote:
Better? I'd argue Innoglue is better. And Elmer's Rubber Cement, of course.

I wish I could get Innoglue easily.

Iskandar
It's far better and cheap, for 20€ you can have 250ml from to websites, not to mention that since it's made locally, I can have it for 6€/110ml. And it's voc free and iitf approved, being used from Canada to South Africa and China.


Problem is, it's water based. With the usual problems of water based glues. Innoglue is also water based, but apparently you only have to apply it to the rubber, and you can easily peel the rubber off and transfer it to another blade without having to apply any more glue (it behaves like a post-it note). Problem is shipping.

I like Elmer's. No need to wait long for it to dry, and unlike water-based glues, it's hard to make a mistake and end up with a bad glue job. Just friendlier over all, and it's available at Wal-Mart and Office Depot if you're in the US.

I wonder what this "heveia milk" is that Igor's writing about.. :lol: :lol: :lol: He was touting latex body paint some years back. I don't think that'd work - if latex body paint were sticky there'd be a bunch of people who'd end up stuck together at raves and discos..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Iskandar

Author:  Aurelian [ 02 Jun 2020, 23:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: List of Pro & Cons of water based glues

iskandar taib wrote:
Aurelian wrote:
iskandar taib wrote:
Better? I'd argue Innoglue is better. And Elmer's Rubber Cement, of course.

I wish I could get Innoglue easily.

Iskandar
It's far better and cheap, for 20€ you can have 250ml from to websites, not to mention that since it's made locally, I can have it for 6€/110ml. And it's voc free and iitf approved, being used from Canada to South Africa and China.


Problem is, it's water based. With the usual problems of water based glues. Innoglue is also water based, but apparently you only have to apply it to the rubber, and you can easily peel the rubber off and transfer it to another blade without having to apply any more glue (it behaves like a post-it note). Problem is shipping.

I like Elmer's. No need to wait long for it to dry, and unlike water-based glues, it's hard to make a mistake and end up with a bad glue job. Just friendlier over all, and it's available at Wal-Mart and Office Depot if you're in the US.

I wonder what this "heveia milk" is that Igor's writing about.. :lol: :lol: :lol: He was touting latex body paint some years back. I don't think that'd work - if latex body paint were sticky there'd be a bunch of people who'd end up stuck together at raves and discos..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Iskandar
No Walmart in Romania, but since I received my AliExpress order and my office was closed (the Revolution no 3 was there) I glued my Kokutakus 868 on the Boer Lion blade with an ordinary 1$ glue from Leroy Merlin and the racket is just amazing
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Author:  igorponger [ 03 Jun 2020, 03:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: List of Pro & Cons of water based glues

+790***00** 02-06-2020 20:08:45
HIGH-CONDENSED Milk for the Champions.

Having been asked about his gluing practices, Dima Ovtcharov openly confessed
-- Presently, I'm using something like a condensed cookery milk on both sides. Earlier times I did tested those fluid stuff and I disliked it strongly.
Surely, Dima meant to say "White glue looking like a condensed milk".

Dima, a skilled pongster, he is well-aware that the natural moisture of latex sap is the worst enemy of the outer veneers as found in many Donic blades , which makes him to invariably opt for a high-condensed latex milk with low moisture content under 14%, something like adhesive TUTTLE PRODUCTS.

SOME SCIENTIFICAL HINTS FOR THOSE INQUISIVE MINDS.
https://youtu.be/qIGVi41loy0?t=409
https://youtu.be/qIGVi41loy0?t=742

Typical Composition of table tennis adhesive (VOC free).
https://youtu.be/NcugB_waCKo?t=120
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