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PostPosted: 19 Mar 2019, 21:34 
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tdltdl wrote:
Thanks for everyone's input. At this stage, I want to just pick one of the 3 Stiga pre-made bats ready to go due to convenience.

Any suggestions out of the 3 I listed which might be preferable ?

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In my experience, the Stiga S1 and S2 rubbers are pretty useless, unless you want to just "shovel back" everything that comes your way and hope for the best. They are quite durable, so they are fine as toy bats for kids' garage/basement play. For "beginner to intermediate" players, even a 3 star (S3 rubber) Stiga premade will feel a bit limiting. As you say, convenience may play a role. If you don't mind paying twice the price (or more) for something half as good (or worse), just for the convenience of getting it in hand immediately, then go for the 3 star one. It lets you play all the strokes. It will last a long time, but don't plan on changing the rubbers. (Rubber is not glued with ordinary TT glue, so getting it off is more work than it's worth. Durability, as mentioned.)

If you also order one of the Sanwei bats with T88-I, when you get it you will notice a significant weight difference. This is mostly due to difference in rubbers. The sponge below the Stiga rubbers is very porous (mostly air) and absorbs energy so you get a lot of "control", while the Sanwei sponge contains more rubber and less air, which makes it more springy (and heavier).


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PostPosted: 03 Apr 2019, 21:51 
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Blade: DHS301
FH: Battle II
BH: AK47 Yellow
I can personally vouch for SANWEI M8 with T88 combo. A perfect setup for beginners starting out. Decent spin, good speed, and overall good controllability. The touch and feedback from the blade excellent.

I recommend this setup all the new players joining our club. However, in our last batch, I found the rubbers to be of slightly inferior quality. One of our players just happen to brush the bat on the table while playing and the rubber tore off. I expected slight damage but this thing just tore of from the middle.

But the good thing is T88 rubbers can be purchased individually and we generally keep a stock of them. Mind you the rubbers are difficult to pull of.


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iskandar taib wrote:
It turns out it's a Sanwei pre-made. It WAS on the Sanwei website but it seems to have been replaced by about 6-8 "Taiji Series" bats. The handle color is different from what you get with a M8. I ordered one, and to be honest, I can't tell the difference between it and the M8 - same thickness, about the same weight (there's a range, but the M8 is uncommonly light), the same speed and feel and the handle is identical aside from the colors.

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I can somewhat understand when you said all rubbers feel the same to you. Now, all the blades are the same too?

Are you OK?


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Nope. Just the M8 (which you can buy separately) and the pre-made. I think they're exactly the same wood, just different handle colors. Same handle shape even. They don't just feel the same, they look the same and measure the same. Can't compare blade weights without pulling the rubbers off of course, and there'd be variation expected there anyhow.

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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 12:39 
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Blade: Donic Waldner Pre made ba
Iskandar,

What do you think about this?

Combo Racket: Palio Infinite-3 Blade
Palio CJ8000 (H36-38) Rubbers

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bWi3KoZ2

I'm more of a recreational player.. strong on forehand loop and drives. Improving on backhand abilities..


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I don't know, I've never used one, but I can't see any reason as to why it wouldn't work.

This one, though, is quite a bit cheaper, and I HAVE used it, and I KNOW it's excellent. Also probably 5-10 grams lighter. AND it comes with a case.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SANWEI- ... 98984.html

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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 20:27 
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Blade: Donic Waldner Pre made ba
Thank you. Placed an order. Got it for $19 AUD. Waiting for delivery now. |( |(


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Speaking of Sanwei pistol grip rackets - I finally came across where they sell the special rubber sheets:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/produc ... 30720.html

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Comes in sets of two. I'll bet they're some variant of T88.

I also found some premades (this is one of them):

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ITTF-Ap ... 20274.html

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According to EmRatThich, those rubbers must be highly boosted... look at all the pips poking through.. :lol: And note the magical blue sponge (which is why the red sheet's so dark..)..

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Hi, I've been playing table tennis for about a year and have fallen in love with the sport. I was introduced to the sport by a co-worker and have been training and playing with him. I use a mass-produced paddle bought from Amazon (Stiga Pro Carbon). I would like to buy something that's of better quality or more suited to the playing style I've developed. I play primarily as a chopper and defensively, going to offense when the balls are high and readily positioned to be attacked. From what I've read, choppers tend to use rubbers that allow more spin while preferring lower sponge thickness for control. I'm not sure if this is accurate. Apart from these guidelines, I would be grateful for specific recommendations. My budget is USD $75 and below.

I'm leaving for a different state, and I would like to gift my co-worker a paddle as a thank you for introducing me to this wonderful sport. He plays an offensive style, close to the table, and blocks well. I would appreciate recommendations for a more experienced player who focuses less on generating spin and more on speed. My budget for this paddle is USD $100 and below.

Thank you in advance for your help, and please let me know if I should provide more detail.


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Well, you came to the right place.. :lol: Lots of choppers here. They'll have all sorts of defensive blades you can buy and what sorts of long pips are best, etc. But for $75? Yes, the rubbers won't cost too much - you can get sheets for as little as $5 (or $10 if you want something with thinner sponge), and you can get long pips for under $15, BUT all these chopping blades they talk about ("VKMO", "Joo", etc. are mainly Japanese and cost a lot). There are cheaper blades but they don't get much mention.. :lol:

For the gift paddle, I'd suggest this:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1308156861.html

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kpa5 wrote:
Hi, I've been playing table tennis for about a year and have fallen in love with the sport. I was introduced to the sport by a co-worker and have been training and playing with him. I use a mass-produced paddle bought from Amazon (Stiga Pro Carbon). I would like to buy something that's of better quality or more suited to the playing style I've developed. I play primarily as a chopper and defensively, going to offense when the balls are high and readily positioned to be attacked. From what I've read, choppers tend to use rubbers that allow more spin while preferring lower sponge thickness for control. I'm not sure if this is accurate. Apart from these guidelines, I would be grateful for specific recommendations. My budget is USD $75 and below.

I'm leaving for a different state, and I would like to gift my co-worker a paddle as a thank you for introducing me to this wonderful sport. He plays an offensive style, close to the table, and blocks well. I would appreciate recommendations for a more experienced player who focuses less on generating spin and more on speed. My budget for this paddle is USD $100 and below.

Thank you in advance for your help, and please let me know if I should provide more detail.


Hi,

From what you've mentioned, it looks like you've been chopping with a inverted rubbers, on both sides ... In which case, a classic defense blade could work for you, perhaps a Yinhe Def-5, Tibhar CO-S-3 Defence ST, or Tibhar Defense Plus .. I've made these recommendations, based on your budget .. If you want something faster, and springy, then the Donic Defplay Senso (V3) could also work ..

As for the inverted rubbers, for chopping ..Let's see .. there's ..

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[*]729 FX
[*]Giant Dragon Submarine
[*]Reactor Corbor or Ckylin
[*]LKT/KTL Pro XP or XT (Tacky version)
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Setup 1 : Donic Defplay Senso V3 Blade Palio AK-47 Blue Max (Black) Yinhe Neptune 0.6mm (Red)
Setup 2 : GKI Euro XX Blade Xiom Vega Europe Max (Black) Bomb Talent OX (Red)
Setup 3 : XVT Hinoki Balsa Carbon Blade 729 Focus III Snipe 40° Max (Black) Dawei 388D-1 OX (Red)
Setup 4 : 729 C-5 Blade Reactor Corbor Max (Black) Palio CK531A 0.6mm (Red)
Setup 5 : Butterfly Joyner-H Blade (Black Metal Tag) Palio AK-47 Yellow Max (Black) Yasaka Mark V Max (Red)


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PostPosted: 08 Nov 2019, 15:37 
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ootbs wrote:
As for the inverted rubbers, for chopping ..Let's see .. there's ..


[*]729 FX
[*]Giant Dragon Submarine
[*]Reactor Corbor or Ckylin
[*]LKT/KTL Pro XP or XT (Tacky version)


Problem is finding something in thin sponge (if that is what is desired). MOST Chinese rubbers don't. Not sure if 729FX comes in thin sponge (though the Big Pore Sponge stuff does). The old 729 Batwings did, but that's hard to find anymore. Some versions of KTL Pro XT do (Green Dragon), but I'm not sure about the "baseline" model. Corbor and Ckylin doesn't, last I checked. These two are VERY different from each other - Ckylin is dead slow.

Long pips are an option, too - most choppers seem to use them. But that's another can of worms... :lol:

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