OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 29 Mar 2024, 15:19


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 114 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2007, 19:53 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 33337
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2741 times
Been thanked: 1548 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
After discussion on other threads here I decided to test some of the rubber cleaning techniques. I found an old rubber (Dawei Sprungfeder A-4) which has had a lot of use and is well worn. It's now totally non-tacky and has even lost a lot of it's grip... feels quite smooth.

Image

Image

Image[/img]

As you can see I have divided up the rubber into 4 sections with masking tape, each section can be treated with a different cleaner so that we can compare the results. I know water will not revive this rubber, so I won't use this as a test

The possible options are:
1. vegie oil as described in other thread
2. rubber cleaner foam
3. orange power cleaner
4. WD40
5. Other rubber cleaners (eg JUIC mini cleaner/rubber cleaner II)
6. Any others?

Unfortunately I don't have any spinmax, otherwise this would be a good test too. Option 1 is the main reason I want to do this experiment, but what would be the best other options... I'm open to suggestion...

Cheers!

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 


Don't want to see this advertisement? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!

 Post subject:
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2007, 22:52 
Offline
Master Of Deception
Master Of Deception
User avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2007, 00:41
Posts: 2326
Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 85 times
Spinmax will sure works coz I used to try it on 755 and my friend always use it on bryce(speed + spin)!!!!!!

WD40? I guess it's designed to use with metal/steel kind of thing.......I don't think it will work, I guess.

I'm looking for the result.

_________________
http://www.NexyUSA.com
USE CODE "HAPPY15" FOR 15% discount at NexyUSA.com. Exp Nov 30th.
NexyUSA.com now carries Sauer & Tröger brand products
EASY P - http://nexyusa.com/collections/rubber/products/easy-p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6tyNTO7 ... ure=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0zkq9Ja3E8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dARovqP9tT0#t=64


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2007, 23:54 
Offline
Senior member

Joined: 08 Jul 2007, 12:42
Posts: 114
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time
This is a great idea! I would like to see the results of veggie oil, orange power cleaner, wd-40, and a cleaner that is specially designed for table tennis rubbers (whatever you have available or deem the best if you have more than one). Let the rejuvenation begin, and rise from the dead ol' black Sprungfeder :D

pongcrazy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 08:35 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 33337
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2741 times
Been thanked: 1548 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
Yep, that sounds like a good set of 4 candidates... I'll have a go this weekend... after I find the instruction on the oil again from you guys...

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 10:04 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2007, 10:04
Posts: 256
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
i can add the following:

i use "cleaning-petrol", dont know how it is called in english (the one you can buy for household cleaning purposes). especially i use it to remove spots of glue on the topsheet ....

then i use "vinegar-essence", again i dont know how it is called in english (the one you can buy for household cleaning purposes, i bought it in the supermarket.

also you can use acetone, which cleans very strongly too, but i would not recommend it, because it is not very healthy to handle with it.

finally you could use pure alcohol, the one you can get for cleaning skin, etc. but any highly concentrated alcohol would do i too.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 10:21 
Offline
Senior member

Joined: 08 Jul 2007, 12:42
Posts: 114
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time
Is the cleaning petrol that you speak of also called 3-in-1 oil? Does it come in a small rectangular tin can with a small plastic spout on the top?
If you are not sure the answer to these questions could you please post a link so I can see the product. Thanks!

pongcrazy


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 11:17 
Offline
Do you feel lucky (young) punk?
Do you feel lucky (young) punk?
User avatar

Joined: 27 Mar 2007, 12:57
Posts: 5772
Location: USA
Has thanked: 128 times
Been thanked: 248 times
Blade: Juic Hinoki One Ply
FH: Tibhar 5Q
BH: Scandal
Hi Haggisv,
Good test idea.
When you use the veggy oil, realize the oil does NOT evaporate. Some have said they leave it on for 30 minutes or longer. I would not do this. All I do is wipe it on and wipe it off 20 or 30 seconds later.
If you wait for it to dissappear, it went into the rubber. The rubber will pick up weight. If you did this on a regular schedule with a normal blade, it would pick up alot of weight over time. By just wiping it on and off in a short time, it has worked for me.
It is your test though so go for it!!! :D

_________________
Shakehand, left handed.
Blade, Yinhe, W-1
Forhand, H-3 National
Backhand, Sriver FX Max


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 12:08 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 14 Jun 2007, 10:08
Posts: 868
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 11 times
Blade: Butterfly Photino for now
FH: Haifu Blue Whale for now
BH: Donic Bluefire for now
No one believes me, but this is what I subscribe to. It's never let me rubbers drop even a tiny bit when I use this right after I play right before I store the rackets up. I like this better than anything else I have tried. Also I think you'll be suprised at how well this does in this very test.
http://amazon.com/dp/B000636OR4/ref=s9_ ... d_i=507846

This is actually for a case of bottles, but just one is very reasonably priced for what is a large can of rejuvenator.

_________________
Photino
My rubbers are 9 years old. They won’t be there long.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 20:38 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 33337
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2741 times
Been thanked: 1548 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
Thanks hookshot, that's how I'll do it then. I guess you could wipe it off with a soft cloth.

Thanks for the other suggestions too, I appreciate it. I think I'll restrict this test to items that are safe and very commonly available... so vegie oil certainly fits this bill :lol:

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 20:45 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2007, 19:47
Posts: 428
Location: Northern NSW Australia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
WD 40 - got me thinking. Its petroleum based - might be a bit harsh on rubber? There's a related product called Lanox - another version is Lanoguard. Basically its an anti-rust and lubrication formulation based on lanolin (from sheep's wool). I might try some of that and some vegie oil and see what happens.

_________________
LKT Instinct. FH Kokutaku Tuple 007 2.0mm black; BH Dawei 388D-1 long pips 1.0mm
a posse ad esse


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 23:42 
Offline
Senior member

Joined: 08 Jul 2007, 12:42
Posts: 114
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 1 time
Haggisv - wiping the oil on and then quickly wiping it off is great for cleaning on a regular interval when you use it all the time, but for a rubber that is old and way past its prime, that needs rejuvenated and not just cleaned, quickly wiping it on and off will not do much. But hey, we know who knows, as we have already been told :thumright:

Another note - The rubber will accumulate a touch of weight when letting it sit overnight during a "rejuvenation" application, but think about it.........you are not soaking it everytime you use the oil, only to rejuvenate it. You can then use a quick application for regular cleaning, and rejuvenate again in a month or whenever the rubber starts to "fall off" if indeed it does. A quarter-sized amount soaking in weighs what - a few grams at that.....probably less than a layer of glue build up. Using the oil from the beginning, as a way to clean and keep your rubber in good shape is a different process from trying to bring it back from the dead!

Rise ol' Sprungfeder, Rise


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2007, 23:47 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 33337
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2741 times
Been thanked: 1548 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
Yes, good point! I'll try the quick wipes for all of them first... then after that I will try the more extensive method.

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2007, 00:47 
Offline
Do you feel lucky (young) punk?
Do you feel lucky (young) punk?
User avatar

Joined: 27 Mar 2007, 12:57
Posts: 5772
Location: USA
Has thanked: 128 times
Been thanked: 248 times
Blade: Juic Hinoki One Ply
FH: Tibhar 5Q
BH: Scandal
Hi pongcrazy,
I agree with your "once in a while, let it sit" :D

_________________
Shakehand, left handed.
Blade, Yinhe, W-1
Forhand, H-3 National
Backhand, Sriver FX Max


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2007, 07:48 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 33337
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2741 times
Been thanked: 1548 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
Right....I was just waiting for he who knows before I went ahead :wink: now I can start :lol:

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2007, 08:39 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2007, 19:47
Posts: 428
Location: Northern NSW Australia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
How come when I look at this thread each line of text goes waaaay off the page? :?: :?:

Makes it a bit of a pain to read to say the least. I thought perhaps it was my browser, but when I check on another thread (to clean or not to clean) the text in that one is all well behaved.

I wonder what's going on?

_________________
LKT Instinct. FH Kokutaku Tuple 007 2.0mm black; BH Dawei 388D-1 long pips 1.0mm
a posse ad esse


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 114 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 8  Next



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 64 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2018 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group