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Author:  Musicfreak0 [ 28 Apr 2017, 17:26 ]
Post subject:  Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

Found a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made with Wakaba D-13 rubbers on eBay. Just curious if anyone would have any clue how old it is?
I'm not interesting in buying it - just wondering how long these things have been around.
Cheers. :up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Butterf ... 2447904851

Author:  so_devo [ 28 Apr 2017, 17:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

I actually owned one of these (with 1mm sponge!) that my nan bought me when at school. That would have been around 1981.

EDIT: The case didn't come with mine, just a plastic box. But that bat case looks about the same vintage.

Author:  iskandar taib [ 04 May 2017, 08:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

Don't see blades of this (trapezoidal) shape any more, but they were common in the 1970s. I remember Klampar played with something with this head shape, despite Butterfly selling a blade with his name on it that didn't look anything like that.

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"Wakaba" was a common rubber you'd find on shakehand premades, while the cheap Butterfly penhold blades used "Biriba". "Wakaba" is also a common girls' given name. I'd say this is post-1960s (there was a time when Butterfly only sold two rubbers - "D13", which was inverted, and "C4", which was pips out - "speciation" came afterwards, with Tempest and Sriver and whatnot).

Iskandar

Author:  1dennistt [ 02 Jun 2017, 22:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

Musicfreak0 wrote:
Found a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made with Wakaba D-13 rubbers on eBay. Just curious if anyone would have any clue how old it is?
I'm not interesting in buying it - just wondering how long these things have been around.
Cheers. :up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Butterf ... 2447904851



Maybe an old Butterfly Surbec or Klampar. Can't remember for sure, but something from that era of table tennis. Somewhere I have an old catalog that might show it, don't know where I have that stuff filled away (in a box somewhere).

Author:  iskandar taib [ 03 Jun 2017, 03:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

Surbek sounds about right. Or X-Star? Don't think I ever saw a Klampar of that shape (despite that's what Klampar himself was using.. :lol: ).

Iskandar

Author:  iskandar taib [ 04 Jun 2017, 03:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

Had another thought. The rubber is BLACK. This probably means it's post-Tackiness, so it's probably no earlier than, what, 1976? 1977? Before that, pretty much all Butterfly rubbers were red (and possibly green or blue). It's also BLACK ON BOTH SIDES! So probably pre - 2 color rule.

This photo is highly annoying:

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You can see a bigger version here:

http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/sho ... 0&format=0

All you can see is "99" so that's part of the name.. :lol: Bad photography.

Nice racket case, so it's probably higher end (though of course the case might've been bought separately):

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Iskandar

Author:  gigiTT [ 01 Aug 2020, 08:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Help date a "vintage" Butterfly pre-made

Iskandar I'd like to ask you if you are a collector and can help me find what i am searching...
Send pm

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