Hi,
I was just thinking that the action for a spin chop and a no spin chop is the difference in the wrist and racket speed. Doesn’t this that make it convincing? Do you guys have any tips to disguise a no spin chop into a heavy chop?
Thanks
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| Author: | RedDash [ 16 Aug 2019, 17:13 ] |
| Post subject: | How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
Hi, I was just thinking that the action for a spin chop and a no spin chop is the difference in the wrist and racket speed. Doesn’t this that make it convincing? Do you guys have any tips to disguise a no spin chop into a heavy chop? Thanks
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| Author: | LordCope [ 16 Aug 2019, 19:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
Loose wrist vs firm wrist. If you explicitly keep your wrist (ie the bit where your hand joins your arm) firm, your chop will have less spin. In general you want that joint to be relaxed, and there to be some degree of snap at impact just as if serving. If you don't do it, you'll deliver a floaty chop. Very difficult to see from the other side of the table when in a rally. |
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| Author: | ootbs [ 16 Aug 2019, 20:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
LordCope wrote: Loose wrist vs firm wrist. If you explicitly keep your wrist (ie the bit where your hand joins your arm) firm, your chop will have less spin. In general you want that joint to be relaxed, and there to be some degree of snap at impact just as if serving. If you don't do it, you'll deliver a floaty chop. Very difficult to see from the other side of the table when in a rally. Would this work, with all rubbers - LP, SP, Inverted ? |
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| Author: | LordCope [ 16 Aug 2019, 21:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
Possibly..... but to a less degree. I tend not to try to deliver a non-spin chop with inverted - I want to load up the spin with the reverse rubber. But I think the principle should hold. I'm talking specifically about my technique when chopping with LP. |
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| Author: | Pure Luck [ 17 Aug 2019, 05:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
What I do with 802-40 on backhand is I make some max spin chops and once in a while light/no spin. I make similar long stroke but I just don't snap at contact. Works well when they make slow spinny loop and you return no spin chopping below the table when they can't see your motion. Also need to keep them low and fast, max ~10 cm over the net, otherwise your opponent has more time to read the return and will kill the ball. The heavier your max spin chop is, the more effective a no spinner will be. |
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| Author: | TraditionalTradesman [ 17 Aug 2019, 06:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
In my view, the most drastic difference between spin and no-spin chops is going to be with inverted. To do a no-spin chop with inverted, I normally sort of scoop the ball and float it back, adding the downward follow-through. It looks like a chop if the opponent isn't paying careful attention, and but the key difference is that I'm meeting the ball towards the TOP rather than the bottom of the racket face as the racket is moving downward (and, to the extent necessary, forward). When you do this, you ensure that not much, if any, spin will be added, since the ball isn't getting a chance to graze the whole racket. |
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| Author: | Red_lion [ 01 Aug 2020, 11:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
Chopping using inverted rubber - in my experience, firm grip makes more spin.. loose grip resulting to no spin chops.. but I am not sure as sometimes result is not consistent 
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| Author: | haggisv [ 02 Aug 2020, 18:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
What I do (with my long pimples) when chopping loops, is instead of chopping downwards, I brush the ball sideways, which produces only low backspin. If you start your stroke at the same point, the opponents don't always look how you finish the stroke, so they overestimate the amount of backspin, and loop it over the end. I find it's a good way of varying the amount of backspin. |
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| Author: | Joo Se Kev [ 02 Aug 2020, 21:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
haggisv wrote: What I do (with my long pimples) when chopping loops, is instead of chopping downwards, I brush the ball sideways, which produces only low backspin. If you start your stroke at the same point, the opponents don't always look how you finish the stroke, so they overestimate the amount of backspin, and loop it over the end. I find it's a good way of varying the amount of backspin. I also use this technique. Mostly, however, I let my own inconsistency in technique provide the bulk of my spin variation
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| Author: | haggisv [ 03 Aug 2020, 20:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
Joo Se Kev wrote: Mostly, however, I let my own inconsistency in technique provide the bulk of my spin variation ROFL 
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| Author: | GrumpyJoe [ 04 Aug 2020, 07:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
What I used to do (a long time ago) was wait till the ball dropped below the table, do a normal chopping motion but catch the ball as close to the handle as you can. Lose grip and don't snap the wrist. Oh yea. Hi guys. |
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| Author: | haggisv [ 04 Aug 2020, 08:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How do YOU make convincing no spin chops? |
Good to see you again GrumpyJoe! 
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