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 Post subject: Tennis Elbow Advice
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2019, 22:59 
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Hey all, hoping I can get some advice here. Recently I was diagnosed by my doctor with tennis elbow. He thinks I caught it early so hopefully it won't be a long recovery. At this time, it doesn't really affect me when playing table tennis or golf, my two main activities. It bothers me most whenever my arm is bent, like when using the mouse for my computer, holding my phone, and sleeping at night. He said that as long as it doesn't hurt me during an activity I can continue to do it, so right now I'm not planning on stopping table tennis or golf. I do have a "Band It" forearm brace to wear for support and he gave me some strong anti-inflammatory pills to take. If it doesn't get better he says we will try physical therapy.
Anyway, my inquiry is, has anybody else had tennis elbow and played table tennis? If so, how did it go for you, and what things did you do to try to avoid further damage and also recover at the same time. Just looking for thoughts/advice and what might be down the road for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Get yourself the Theraband Flexbar. A cheap solution that can fix a lot of arm/elbow/wrist problems after a few weeks of use. It fixed my tennis/golfers elbow problem in about 6 weeks. I got mine from Amazon but it might be available locally at Dick's Sporting Goods. I recommend starting with the red one and work your way up to the green and blue. Some people make the mistake of starting with a bar with too high resistance which exacerbates the pain and then quit, saying it doesn't work for them.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Thanks! Just ordered one from Amazon!

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Your doctor will know what is best for you. Also Tennis-elbow and Golf-elbow are injuries related to playing VERY aggressive Backhand strokes in Table-tennis.

Best advice is to use PRICE ( Prevention, Rest, Icing, Compression, Exercise ) . Don't do the things that cause the pain, rest if you feel any twinge or pain, Ice BEFORE and AFTER exertion, Apply compress wrapping /dressing / supports, do recovery or light stretches / exercise to help improve healing.

Best of luck and consult your doctor often.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2019, 06:09 
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That's interesting, I've always been aggressive in trying to hit with my backhand, even when I used OX long pips. Recently (a couple of months ago) I started dabbling with more aggressive backhand rubbers, first medium pips and then some short pips, where I'm doing more attacking. Perhaps this is what has caused it to flair up.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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The Armaid device is the only device that helped my stubborn tennis elbow, and it did it within a week! (My green Thera-Band Flexbar is gathering dust.. and it smells awful!)

I've referred a couple of clubmates to the Armaid over the years and both had similar results. http://www.armaid.com


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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Thanks nathanso! That looks really weird, haha.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Just a quick update here, while I'm not yet back to 100%, I can tell I am definitely a bit better. I have no problems playing table tennis, and the amount of numbness and pain has gone down. The Band-It forearm support doesn't look like much but it's really effective, and using the Thera-Band has also had positive results, I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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One thing to consider is how you are gripping whatever it is you are holding. Tennis elbow is actually the result of over-gripping combined with repetitive motion. Mouse elbow, although many use the two terms interchangeably, is caused by different mechanics and context.

First, make sure your desk is at the correct levels when using your mouse. With your phone, change hands and learn to use it with your left hand by default. Also, you should try using a vertical mouse and a keyboard without a number pad. The number pad causes your right hand to tend to drift laterally.

People don't realize it, but with a traditional mouse, your radius and ulna are actually twisted putting pressure on the tendons and nerves related to mouse elbow.

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If you do computer desk work, this change alone may alleviate the remainder of your symptoms. The OTs at my hospital will do a analysis of your workstation to ensure you are reaching optimal mechanics. Perhaps your company may do something similar. Otherwise, there are many youtubes about desk height, arm height, and monitor height, ergonimics and body mechanics.

I have a feeling you'll love the vertical mouse. This was the best thing for my elbow issues. It takes some getting used to, but well worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Be wary of taking painkillers to keep playing,I did this and made the problem chronic and still not 100% a year later.I can play ok now but there is sometimes some aching the morning after (none when playing)

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Just curious, did you recover fully? I developed this condition a month ago and it's not getting any better which is annoying.

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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Dusty054 wrote:
Just curious, did you recover fully? I developed this condition a month ago and it's not getting any better which is annoying.


If you haven't realised it by now, Tennis Elbow / Golf Elbow is a serious problem! DO NOT ignore it, and take the time to get it treated properly.

Apply ice/hot packs before activities and after activities. Apply 2 or 3 times or more per day but no more than 15 - 20 mins. Do gentle stretches to help promote the healing.

Once you have very little to no pain, probably 1 - 2.5 kg weight strengthening can be done. You don't need bigger weights than that.

See a doctor. :angel: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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After 17 months I have strength back in the arm which it is pain free and I can now squeeze properly, I found that regular icing helped the cause more than anything and I put soft grip on the bat handle as recommended by an experienced coach.
These injuries can take 2 years to heal due to the poor blood supply to the tendons around the elbow so it could have been worse.
Only time it aches a bit is when I use the computer mouse or mobile phone not from playing tt ,if anyone has the beginning of this condition please wait till your pain free or you may end up on the same long road to recovery

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 Post subject: Re: Tennis Elbow Advice
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One thought I had for anyone who's suffering through these kinds of injuries is that the weight of your blade could make a big difference, even if it's a matter of 10 grams one way or another. I'd been using the TSP Toccata some years back (close to 90 gm), and my elbow flared up. It wasn't anything crazy but getting to be annoying. When I made the switch back to a light balsa blade (due to playing characteristics, not pain), my lingering pain went away in a week. Ever since I've been playing with blades that are less than 75 gm, and I've never had an issue.

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2 years? Yikes. I’ll be seeing a doctor on Monday. A week ago I bought one of those tennis elbow braces which I’ve been wearing while playing table tennis which I do 2 nights per week. Maybe I should be wearing it more often? My blade is already very light so can’t really improve on that.

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