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Diabolosyl
 Post subject: Saviga V : Who tries it?
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Everything is in the title.
Who can compare it to another well-known LP? (maybe as one of Neubauer it would be wonderful)

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Its nothing like a Neubauer product I'm afraid.

Its not my thing but I think it is similar to 388D-1, the all round soft pip. I've never played 388D-1 but it is probably harder than C&FIII and softer than 755. Speedplay is the person to ask.

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I've got this rubber, I assume you read me review here:
Review of Saviga V long pimple rubber

As Mathias said it feels nothing like any of the Dr N or Hallmark rubbers I've tried...

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I have read it but I stay with some questions: Is there an antispin effect to return the service?
Is it possible to alternate a play close to the table and a classical defense?

As I have tried the 955, could you compare them?

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There is a coinsiderable spin reversal (or anytisoin effect) on returns, quite a bit more than the 955. It's good for chopping away from the table, good control. It's also vey good for attacking and hitting. You won't get the control close in as the Dr N, but you'll have a lot more options away from the table.

See it as a 955 with considerably more spin reversal, a little less control, slower on passive blocks but faster on active blocks.

Note the 388d-1 is VERY similar (possible a little slower) and cheaper...

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So it seems quite different.
As I read "frictionless" I thought it was a kind of Neubauer because that's what I was looking for, not a grippy one but a frictionless with a good reversal effect.

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The tips don't have a lot of friction (still more then Dr N), but unlike Dr N, these pips are very soft and bend easily. Once they bend you get the grip from the edges and sides of the pips...

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Ah at last :wink: Glad you could make it Speedplay.
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speedplay wrote:
Hello Diabolosyl,
Also, it gave me a better "knowledge" where the ball was going to land, with SB I only know it will be somewhere on the table, now I could choice more precisly where I wanted it.

Really? then it's a (SB)superbad control rubber.

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LOL :) I think Speedplay is exaggerating but I know what is meant.

Control is reduced, particularly is you try playing against with any 'spin' type stroke. It just takes a bit of getting use to the slipperiness of the rubber. If you try a looping motion its hard to get it to land on the other side of the table. You gain a lot of control for playing very short shots with SB because it is very slow.

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Hello Diabolosyl,
Also, it gave me a better "knowledge" where the ball was going to land, with SB I only know it will be somewhere on the table, now I could choice more precisly where I wanted it.

Really? then it's a (SB)superbad control rubber.


Just a question of training :wink:
I think I can say I knew where I send my ball with the SB (except on some spectacular points)

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That really great to hear!

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speedplay wrote:
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It's mentioned as an attacking long pimpled rubber and I must say that I wonder, why? I had little, close to zero succes with my attacks. The few hits that I managed to get on the table where much to slow and "straight" to cause my opponent any troubble.

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Speedplay quoting Speedplay thats a novel idea.

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Mathias wrote:
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It's mentioned as an attacking long pimpled rubber and I must say that I wonder, why? I had little, close to zero succes with my attacks. The few hits that I managed to get on the table where much to slow and "straight" to cause my opponent any troubble.

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Speedplay quoting Speedplay thats a novel idea.


Anyway the point I really meant to make is that attacking with lps can be/ is just as active as a defence. You can vary topspin, vary speed and manipulate float/reverse spin to reverse spin/inverse spin combinations - if you want to win points outright. I'm training on this stuff right now. Most though will use it to break up a defensive rhythm - where the intention is not necessarily to win points and use float/reverse to reverse/inverse chops to win points or set up the forehand.

That might be a bit of a confusing statement but you get my drift.

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Tried SAVIGA V - OX last night.
I found out that it had stiga destroyer-OX characteristics.
Very similar.
VERY easy to keep the ball low.
No problem w/serve return...brush sideway will help kill spin when returning heavy side or top spin..ball still low and sometime wobbled and sometime heavy spin. can add own spin returning long-no spin serve.

Chop : great control both height and depth.
Lifting : Not great....OK.
Punching : Terrible....Dest and P1R are better but maybe Bcoz I don't punch often and not good at punching.

VERY GOOD at offensive chop, fast deep and low to opponent body.

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