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PostPosted: 19 Jul 2019, 05:23 
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Saw that there is a dedicated area for robots:

I was browsing kickstarter and saw that JOOLA has a table tennis robot: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joola/joola-infinity

There was also a lot of hype about Trainerbot, but it seems that it still hasn't launched and backers are upset: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/trainerbot

I think the JOOLA robot has the same functionality as the Newgy 3050 and about half the price. Would it be worth it to pre-order one?


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PostPosted: 21 Jul 2019, 07:36 
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I just saw this too. I'm actually pretty tempted. I'm already looking for a low cost one at first, as I'm building a house that will have a table tennis room in it, but I won't have a lot of money for a robot initially. Long term I am hoping to get a nicer robot. I was already thinking of getting an iPong Trainer Motion as my first robot, so the level that includes one of those was really interesting to me. At that price, if they are able to pull it off, this could be a steal.
Alpha, did you end up going in on this?

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I'm still 50/50 right now, I've been reading the comments on the trainerbot indiegogo page and will wait to see what JOOLA says about the questions they have.


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I decided to get in on it. I was going to get an iPong Pro Trainer as my initial basic robot anyway. If it works out, $450 for a high level robot that works off an app is a steal. I can splurge a little more on my table. :)

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Just saw their update, now I am really tempted to get it now. Gonna wait till my next paycheck to buy the lowest tier one.

Is there a difference between the iPong trainer and trainer motion?


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As a former robot owner who has spent hundreds of hours doing robot training, I can attest that this robot's specs look enticing. But don't be tempted to purchase one without a catch net (assuming it's even offered in that configuration).


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PostPosted: 23 Jul 2019, 22:06 
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It looks like there is a catch net and recycling system included with the Infinity Robot.
Most of the iPongs don't go from side to side...that's why I like the idea of the Trainer Motion as a basic one, it can at least change location.

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This chart is quite useful:

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I'm a bit confused by who's actually making this robot. They call it a Joola robot, it's made by the makers of Ipong, yet it's on kickstarter? Sure if it's a Joola robot (or Ipong), they can fund the development themselves, instead of asking customers for money?

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Dec 2020 availability date.. in my industry that's called Vaporware!


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Why wait. Just get a tennirobo. It is just as good or better than the more expensive robots costing thousands and is controlled by app. The disadvantage is that it does not come with a catcher net. I do not find this a big issue as I need a rest after 200 balls and a good fishing wire ball picker picker upper is pretty fast. I can move the robot to anywhere behind the table easily too.


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I was wondering the same thing about the relationship between iPong and Joola. I don't think that iPong is a part of Joola, but they have a strong relationship. When I look at the iPong website, it says that Joola is the distributor for iPong in Europe, Brazil and North America. And that Joola North America also distributes to territories other than China, Korea and Japan: http://www.ipong.net/joomla/index.php/distributors

So I assume there is some sort of business arrangement, because to me it appears that iPong is making the Infinity Robot for Joola to brand and distribute.

As to why they can't fund it themselves...who knows. Maybe it's a great way to create brand awareness and market that this product is on its way. It's also a nice way to help offset costs. Or maybe the project has already hit cost overruns and they're trying to help offset those.

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dwruck wrote:
I was wondering the same thing about the relationship between iPong and Joola. I don't think that iPong is a part of Joola, but they have a strong relationship. When I look at the iPong website, it says that Joola is the distributor for iPong in Europe, Brazil and North America. And that Joola North America also distributes to territories other than China, Korea and Japan: http://www.ipong.net/joomla/index.php/distributors

So I assume there is some sort of business arrangement, because to me it appears that iPong is making the Infinity Robot for Joola to brand and distribute.

As to why they can't fund it themselves...who knows. Maybe it's a great way to create brand awareness and market that this product is on its way. It's also a nice way to help offset costs. Or maybe the project has already hit cost overruns and they're trying to help offset those.


Joola and iPong are owned by the same parent company sport-squad.

https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Table-Tenni ... ennis-GmbH


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haggisv wrote:
I'm a bit confused by who's actually making this robot. They call it a Joola robot, it's made by the makers of Ipong, yet it's on kickstarter? Sure if it's a Joola robot (or Ipong), they can fund the development themselves, instead of asking customers for money?


I agree and am pretty sure they could fund the robot internally. Specially considering that it was prototyped in 2015. They are just following the trend of fully functioning and capable companies crowd funding their products.

This does look like a good robot, I wonder if the recent push for app managed robots will prompt a wave of new designs across the board. Apps are relatively cheap to develop, I guess the trick is getting the robot to integrate and operate fully with them.

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