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PostPosted: 18 Jan 2021, 22:23 
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iskandar taib wrote:
My suggestion is, given what it costs, to just get a sheet of AK47 Blue and try it. Blue is the middle one in terms of hardness - I forget which one is softer - the red or the yellow. The other one would be softer. As mentioned earlier - blue would be harder than the CJ8000 mentioned (it came in a dizzying variety of sponges - the topsheets were supposed to be all the same but there is evidence they actually sold three different topsheets, at least they used to).
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Wait ... I thought, in terms of sponge-hardness, the AK-47 Yellow (40° - 42° sits in between the Blue (Softest @ °38 - 40°), and the Red (45° - 47°) ... can anyone confirm ...

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If you now want to know whether you should get the blue, the red or the yellow AK47 - heck, they're cheap enough, get all three... :lol: You'll still spend a lot less than if you bought one sheet of Tackiness. I'll add my usual caveat - chances are if you mount ANY of two of these rubbers on different sides of the same blade you'll be hard pressed to tell which is which - in the end rubber matters a lot less than you think it does.
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I agree with Iskander, in that they're rather cheap ... However, there is a notice'able difference between the 3 .. I own all 3 - The Red is clearly the hardest and fastest ... The Yellow, seems just a tad springy'er than the blue ../


I actualy have allready ak47 blue and to me it is a slightly slower ROZENA and lighter. The purpose of my post was to learn about cj8000 .I play with tack chop2 in my backhand and need an equal but cheaper rubber or slighty faster .the speed i m looking for is between tac chop2 and stiga mendo.


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Hi,
seems you have a problem with the plastic ball, not with the rubber itself.
You tested so many rubbers, it is not possible that something matches.
Btw Palio CJ8000 Biotech is speedwise like a turtle.
In general, with the plastic ball you must move two numbers faster. If you played a off- combi with celluloid, go for a off or off+ setting.
What remains is training.


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ootbs wrote:

Wait ... I thought, in terms of sponge-hardness, the AK-47 Yellow (40° - 42° sits in between the Blue (Softest @ °38 - 40°), and the Red (45° - 47°) ... can anyone confirm ...


You're most probably right - I was writing from memory. :lol:

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I actualy have allready ak47 blue and to me it is a slightly slower ROZENA and lighter. The purpose of my post was to learn about cj8000 .I play with tack chop2 in my backhand and need an equal but cheaper rubber or slighty faster .the speed i m looking for is between tac chop2 and stiga mendo.


In that case, I'd suggest getting a few sheets of CJ8000 of various hardness and trying them all.. Even cheaper than AK47.. :lol:

Not sure what Tackiness Chop 2 is like, the original Tackiness Chop was so slow I found it unuseable. Mendo would be similar to Sriver or Mark V. Sounds like you want something REALLY slow - try a sheet of Reactor Ckylin.. THAT is REALLY slow ("Chinese Blue Fire" my foot.. :lol: ).

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iskandar taib wrote:
vc15 wrote:
Sounds like you want something REALLY slow - try a sheet of Reactor Ckylin.. THAT is REALLY slow ("Chinese Blue Fire" my foot.. :lol: ).
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Reactor - "Chinese Blue Fire" ... ahahahahha.....good one!! which stand-up act did you hear that from ?


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That's how they describe it on the back of the packet.

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:lol:

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iskandar taib wrote:
That's how they describe it on the back of the packet.

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The write-up also mentioned After 3 laborious years of research....

So, even after spending 3 years on intense research, they still didn't get it right ... :lol: it's miles away from anything even remotely close to BlueFire.


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I think the best description for it would be "really grippy anti". :lol: Might be good for blocking balls short..

I was SOOOOO excited when I ordered it. Couldn't wait to see what it was like. I actually got three sheets - there was a small pore version and a large pore version (REALLY BIG PORES too..) so I had to try both.

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