OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 28 Nov 2020, 11:09


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: 18 Nov 2020, 06:11 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 08 May 2020, 20:26
Posts: 71
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 6 times
Blade: DHS W320 cPen
FH: DHS Neo Hurricane 3
BH: TSP Ventus Soft
Hi,

I'm just curious if it's just me that I glued with this water based hobby glue https://youtu.be/4jRXzPBR-eA

All I can tell you is that it works very fine, almost as a normal table tennis glue :DImage

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 

PostPosted: 18 Nov 2020, 15:59 
Offline
Dark Knight
Dark Knight
User avatar

Joined: 13 Dec 2006, 12:34
Posts: 32673
Location: Adelaide, AU
Has thanked: 2057 times
Been thanked: 1351 times
Blade: Trinity Carbon
FH: Victas VS > 401
BH: Dr N Troublemaker OX
Interesting, I've never seen that one. So the rubber is removable as well?

_________________
OOAK Table Tennis Shop | Re-Impact Blades | Butterfly Table Tennis bats
Setup1: Re-Impact Smart, Viper OX, Victas VS 401 Setup2: Re-Impact Barath, Dtecs OX, TSP Triple Spin Chop 1.0mm Setup3: Re-Impact Dark Knight, Hellfire OX, 999 Turbo
Recent Articles: Butterfly Tenergy Alternatives | Tenergy Rubbers Compared | Re-Impact User Guide


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 18 Nov 2020, 17:47 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 08 May 2020, 20:26
Posts: 71
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 6 times
Blade: DHS W320 cPen
FH: DHS Neo Hurricane 3
BH: TSP Ventus Soft
haggisv wrote:
Interesting, I've never seen that one. So the rubber is removable as well?
I already used it at least 5 times. There are the following situations:

- unsealed blade: 1 layer on the blade + 1 layer on the rubber, the glue might stay on the blade. I removed it very easy with a wet napkin, within seconds, it's washable
- sealed blade : 1 layer on the blade + 1 layer on the rubber, it will stay on the rubber, you can remove it as in the video, it might take 5 minutes/rubber, but as the layer is thin and evenly spread, you can also let it there and glue again
- sealed blade: 2 layers on the blade+2 on the rubber, very easy to remove, almost as Revolution No 3, 1 or 2 moves

I found it in an office supplies store, and started using it for my junk paddles, I still play outdoors at least two times/week despite the weather worsening, but I tried it also on my main blade indoors and didn't felt any difference.

It doesn't damage the blade or the rubber, and I can easily glue and match tensor rubbers that are smaller than the blade, by tensioning them to match the blade.

Here I put some highlights from this Saturday, i didn't play with my main blade, but with one of my junk blades : Boer blade(that zebra wood version from AliExpress) + Kokutaku 868 rubbers which I use outdoor since April. And it felt excelent, not so fast, but great feeling of the ball https://youtu.be/1qOEp2b1XeY
Attachment:
IMG-20201114-WA0000.jpg
IMG-20201114-WA0000.jpg [ 41.41 KiB | Viewed 139 times ]
Image
Attachment:
IMG_20201114_135756378.jpg
IMG_20201114_135756378.jpg [ 60.5 KiB | Viewed 139 times ]


Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2020, 17:13 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 9688
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 1196 times
That looks like a typical white glue (PVA) meant for gluing wood to wood (i.e. furniture). An example would be Elmer's Glue-all or UHU Coll. I've heard of people using such glues for table tennis rubbers but I'm skeptical. I suppose it depends on how you're using it - do you allow it to dry on both surfaces before joining them? If so, it might work (though these glues aren't meant to be tacky after they've dried). If you slap the rubber on before the glue has dried it probably would NEVER dry (since it's water based and rubber isn't porous). It's meant to make a very strong, permanent bond between the two pieces of wood, so if it's making a weak bond between blade and rubber then it probably isn't dried completely and remains partially damp. If you haven't sealed the blade it'd probably seep into the wood.

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2020, 17:43 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 08 May 2020, 20:26
Posts: 71
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 6 times
Blade: DHS W320 cPen
FH: DHS Neo Hurricane 3
BH: TSP Ventus Soft
iskandar taib wrote:
That looks like a typical white glue (PVA) meant for gluing wood to wood (i.e. furniture). An example would be Elmer's Glue-all or UHU Coll. I've heard of people using such glues for table tennis rubbers but I'm skeptical. I suppose it depends on how you're using it - do you allow it to dry on both surfaces before joining them? If so, it might work (though these glues aren't meant to be tacky after they've dried). If you slap the rubber on before the glue has dried it probably would NEVER dry (since it's water based and rubber isn't porous). It's meant to make a very strong, permanent bond between the two pieces of wood, so if it's making a weak bond between blade and rubber then it probably isn't dried completely and remains partially damp. If you haven't sealed the blade it'd probably seep into the wood.

Iskandar
Yes, it's a PVA resin based glue, I don't let it dry completely, but when I removed it, it was dry. I discussed with another player who is chemical engineer and told me that it won't damage the sponge but it has a disadvantage beeing less elastic than a latex based glue. I however like it and is easy to remove.

Having a dozen of blades and even more rubbers from AliExpress, it's a joy to switch them from a blade to another and combine them very fast anywhere in my house, because my wife has the smell of a dog/bear and screams everytime he feels table tennis products smell, but this glue is undetectable even for her nose :)))

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2020, 17:44 
Offline
Full member

Joined: 08 May 2020, 20:26
Posts: 71
Has thanked: 33 times
Been thanked: 6 times
Blade: DHS W320 cPen
FH: DHS Neo Hurricane 3
BH: TSP Ventus Soft
Aurelian wrote:
iskandar taib wrote:
That looks like a typical white glue (PVA) meant for gluing wood to wood (i.e. furniture). An example would be Elmer's Glue-all or UHU Coll. I've heard of people using such glues for table tennis rubbers but I'm skeptical. I suppose it depends on how you're using it - do you allow it to dry on both surfaces before joining them? If so, it might work (though these glues aren't meant to be tacky after they've dried). If you slap the rubber on before the glue has dried it probably would NEVER dry (since it's water based and rubber isn't porous). It's meant to make a very strong, permanent bond between the two pieces of wood, so if it's making a weak bond between blade and rubber then it probably isn't dried completely and remains partially damp. If you haven't sealed the blade it'd probably seep into the wood.

Iskandar
Yes, it's a PVA resin based glue, I don't let it dry completely, but when I removed it, it was dry. I discussed with another player who is chemical engineer and told me that it won't damage the sponge but it has a disadvantage beeing less elastic than a latex based glue. I however like it and is easy to remove.

Having a dozen of blades and even more rubbers from AliExpress, it's a joy to switch them from a blade to another and combine them very fast anywhere in my house, because my wife has the smell of a dog/bear and screams everytime he feels table tennis products smell, but this glue is undetectable even for her nose :)))

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk
*She feels

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2018 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group