OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 02 Mar 2021, 02:39


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Dawei Saviga Super Block
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2021, 06:05 
Offline
Full member
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2012, 07:45
Posts: 90
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 2 times
I stumbled across a review of this rubber on the youtube, and after that found some internet sites that are selling it. It is advertised as ittf aproved and frictionless at the same time which can't be true, so I am curious if anyone tried it and is it the same as the old super block, or Super Block Extreme which I luckily was able to get. It has ittf number so it can't be frictionless?


Attachments:
Screenshot_20210219_212803.jpg
Screenshot_20210219_212803.jpg [ 96.97 KiB | Viewed 589 times ]
Screenshot_20210219_212739.jpg
Screenshot_20210219_212739.jpg [ 172.12 KiB | Viewed 589 times ]

_________________
Blade: Tibhar COS 3
FH: Xiom Vega Japan
BH: Dr Neubauer Super Block Extreme
Top
 Profile  
 


PostPosted: 20 Feb 2021, 14:09 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2018, 03:24
Posts: 601
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 66 times
Yep... I came across this a while back on tenryu.com.my, and was wondering .. The packaging photos look exactly like Dr.N Superblock ...

Around 1-2 years back, Dr.N had started selling the Superblock, once again .. I heard that the ITTF demanded that they stopped.. Could it be that stores are selling excess stock under the Saviga name ?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2021, 18:03 
Offline
Full member
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2012, 07:45
Posts: 90
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 2 times
It cann't be excess stock because I don't think that they could relabel existing sheets, and also why would ittf allowed them to sell frictionless, and disallow Dr Neubauer to do the same. But the cover really looks like old Super Block.

_________________
Blade: Tibhar COS 3
FH: Xiom Vega Japan
BH: Dr Neubauer Super Block Extreme


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2021, 07:44 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 15 Jan 2018, 04:47
Posts: 587
Has thanked: 143 times
Been thanked: 129 times
Blade: Grubba All + / Joola R1
FH: N.Chopper 1.0/Moristo 1.4
BH: Dawei 388d-1 ox
The ban of frictionless pimples is difficult to enforce in Asia; it seems China is reluctant to accept this ban.We can still see some FL pimples with the ITTF logo being sold on Aliexpress . No wonder the description of Saviga SB mentions the rubber is frictionless. What is a disgrace is the fact that the ITTF turnns a blind eye over this issue.

Moral : do not mess with the Chinese ever!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2021, 15:16 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2018, 03:24
Posts: 601
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 66 times
Vladojica wrote:
It cann't be excess stock because I don't think that they could relabel existing sheets, and also why would ittf allowed them to sell frictionless, and disallow Dr Neubauer to do the same. But the cover really looks like old Super Block.


Yes, you have a point .. Perhaps, it's a marketing ploy by Dawei/Saviga - and it's working - it's certainly piqued my interest, that I don't mind buying it... I'm suckered!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2021, 16:37 
Offline
Senior member
User avatar

Joined: 03 Dec 2012, 19:05
Posts: 133
Location: Japan
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Well, I just ordered a couple sheets. I've never tried Dr. N Superblock so I don't know what real frictionless plays like. Hopefully someone who does can compare them. I probably should've waited for others' opinions but I couldn't help myself :oops:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2021, 19:24 
Offline
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2018, 03:24
Posts: 601
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 66 times
There's also a Yinhe Qing SuperBlock on Prott.vip .. But, the packaging is different

I guess, these companies are trying to piggy-back on the SuperBlock name .. Saviga, it seems, has taken it step further, by replicating the packaging too ..


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2021, 16:49 
Offline
Full member
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2012, 07:45
Posts: 90
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 2 times
gaijinjoe wrote:
Well, I just ordered a couple sheets. I've never tried Dr. N Superblock so I don't know what real frictionless plays like. Hopefully someone who does can compare them. I probably should've waited for others' opinions but I couldn't help myself :oops:


It plays so that when you try it once, you will never come back to regular pips :D. If it is regular super block the pips should feel as smooth as some kind of plastic.

_________________
Blade: Tibhar COS 3
FH: Xiom Vega Japan
BH: Dr Neubauer Super Block Extreme


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2021, 17:56 
Offline
Senior member
User avatar

Joined: 03 Dec 2012, 19:05
Posts: 133
Location: Japan
Has thanked: 16 times
Been thanked: 2 times
Vladojica did you try the Saviga super block?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 01:33 
Offline
Senior member
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2020, 21:31
Posts: 173
Location: Catalonia
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 4 times
Blade: Stiga All Round WRB
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 NT 39º
BH: Giant Dragon Talon NT OX
It's on the LARC http://www.kttv.at/archiv/material/larc.pdf PERIOD OF VALIDITY: 1 October 2020 Until 31 March 2021.

_________________
No more political prisoners in Catalonia.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 01:35 
Offline
Senior member
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2020, 21:31
Posts: 173
Location: Catalonia
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 4 times
Blade: Stiga All Round WRB
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 NT 39º
BH: Giant Dragon Talon NT OX
gaijinjoe wrote:
Well, I just ordered a couple sheets. I've never tried Dr. N Superblock so I don't know what real frictionless plays like. Hopefully someone who does can compare them. I probably should've waited for others' opinions but I couldn't help myself :oops:


Where did you ordered?

_________________
No more political prisoners in Catalonia.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 01:42 
Offline
Senior member
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2020, 21:31
Posts: 173
Location: Catalonia
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 4 times
Blade: Stiga All Round WRB
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 NT 39º
BH: Giant Dragon Talon NT OX
LARC pimple type categorized as short.

https://youtu.be/FPJ2qvmvxAg

Video shows as a super slow rubber, promising!

_________________
No more political prisoners in Catalonia.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 05:35 
Offline
Full member
User avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2012, 07:45
Posts: 90
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 2 times
gaijinjoe wrote:
Vladojica did you try the Saviga super block?



I haven't, I tried just Dr Neubauer Super Block Extreme, and it is the same as old super block, but since they cannot sell it anymoreI am hoping that someone else will keep the fires on :D .

So lets see what you will get from your order.

_________________
Blade: Tibhar COS 3
FH: Xiom Vega Japan
BH: Dr Neubauer Super Block Extreme


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 08:24 
Online
Super User
User avatar

Joined: 22 Mar 2012, 10:37
Posts: 513
Location: Phoenix
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 80 times
Blade: Stiga 2000 ALL '76
FH: DHS H3N
BH: DrN ABS2 2.3
Vladojica wrote:
So lets see what you will get from your order.

The answer should be fairly easy...nothing! Frictionless long pips are illegal and since the Saviga is on the LARC it was tested by ITTF and therefore can't be frictionless. Also, it doesn't look like a frictionless pip in the video above as there is no reversal on passive blocks but there is reversal on chop blocks. It might be interesting for some users since it seems fairly slow (please keep in mind the blade used in the test is not a super slow DEF blade!) and has a low bounce.

_________________
Equipment:
Stiga 2000 All '76, FH: DHS H3 Neo 2.1, BH: Dr. Neubauer ABS2 2.3


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 08:48 
Offline
Chopoleon Bonaparte
User avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2009, 07:21
Posts: 857
Location: New York, New York
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 144 times
Blade: Nittaku Shake Defense
FH: Nittaku Fastarc C-1 1.8mm
BH: Hellfire X OX
Matt Pimple wrote:
[Also, it doesn't look like a frictionless pip in the video above as there is no reversal on passive blocks but there is reversal on chop blocks.


I agree. It didn't look frictionless to me at all. Even pushes in response to pips blocks looked like they went fairly high (suggesting there wasn't much underspin on the ball). Will be curious to hear the impressions of anyone who ordered it.

_________________
I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2018 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group