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 Post subject: Spinlord Nashorn
PostPosted: 17 Apr 2021, 07:25 
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Review of Nashorn: https://youtu.be/XqIaHneU74A

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Nashorn
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2021, 03:48 
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https://youtu.be/YDPxFoJZq-g (English subtitles). A former pro-level defender advices this rubber in 1.5mm thickness for BH chopping game (ala Hou Yingchao). It creates good underspin on the table and especially away from the table.


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Nashorn
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2021, 18:05 
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How is the Nashorn compared to Spectol in terms of grip and speed?

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Nashorn
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How is the Nashorn compared to Spectol in terms of grip and speed?

Shchetinin played with Hou in the same team some time ago and he had thought Hou used Spectol rubber with factory sponge at that time (but exact model and thickness is unknown) as he had never seen custom sponge cooking by Hou.

I can retranslate the opinion of the master Zonenko. Spectol pips on any original sponge are unplayable in defence at high level. Many good players tried nobody except Hou himself succeeded. If one of the former strongest Russian defender cannot control Spectol, it says as final verdict for me.

Zonenko played with Spinpips Chop 2 as his last solution of plastic ball problem. He thinks Nashorn is better especially with custom slower sponge. Better in control, in table play, in chop underspin and spin manipulation.


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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Nashorn
PostPosted: 25 Apr 2021, 22:16 
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Here is my first filmed sets with 1.5 Nashorn on BH on DHS Classic 08X blade (allround with carbon):

https://youtu.be/_gUGv3jhd34

This was my 2nd session with this short pimple rubber. I used Spectol 1.8 mm the sessions before this (I normally uses frictionless anti on BH).

The first opponent uses H3 on FH and some Donic on BH. The 2nd opponent uses short pip on both sides, Spectol 1.8 mm on FH and 1.5 mm on BH, on a Stiga Clipper. He is like a wall that sometimes hits back...

Nashorn is an easy to use short pip for drives and some blocks. It has soft ribbed pips on a soft sponge. It reminds of DMS Flashback but with shorter pips and a little more grip.

It is easy to flip with this rubber and attack back spin. Pushes can be effective if kept low (not easy), the travel fast and with little spin, so opponent have difficulties making enough arc on attack to land the ball on the table. Opponents often misread spin from pushes with.this rubber, and it that way it feels more like a medium pip and a short pip.

You can defend from distance with this but Spectol is better for that, that has better spin potential and is more linear in its behaviour. For generating much spin on chops with Nashorn one need to open the bat a lot to chop with the side of the pips and with a forward motion. If you chop more downward you have more control but it is more difficult to generate spin and vary spin.

Attacking and blocking is rather good with clear sink effect if you have an opend bat and with some arc if you close the bat a little. When blocking strong loops you need to follow the ball after the bounce, and brush it forward. This can remove spin and speed very effective causing all sorts of troubles for your opponent. But, on against a little higher ball, you can just slap the ball back with a slightly closed bat angle.

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 Post subject: Re: Spinlord Nashorn
PostPosted: 26 Apr 2021, 05:55 
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Omut wrote:
Def-attack wrote:
How is the Nashorn compared to Spectol in terms of grip and speed?

Shchetinin played with Hou in the same team some time ago and he had thought Hou used Spectol rubber with factory sponge at that time (but exact model and thickness is unknown) as he had never seen custom sponge cooking by Hou.

I can retranslate the opinion of the master Zonenko. Spectol pips on any original sponge are unplayable in defence at high level. Many good players tried nobody except Hou himself succeeded. If one of the former strongest Russian defender cannot control Spectol, it says as final verdict for me.

Zonenko played with Spinpips Chop 2 as his last solution of plastic ball problem. He thinks Nashorn is better especially with custom slower sponge. Better in control, in table play, in chop underspin and spin manipulation.


Find hard to believe that hou cant have access to special spectol ,tan ruiwu had special sheets for him.


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