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 Post subject: Dr. Neubauer A-B-S 2 Pro
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2021, 19:56 
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Officially available !
https://www.drneubauer.com/shop.php?cat ... =&prod=160

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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2021, 22:53 
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Great! but don`t believe the word Pro means anything special in the rubber :lol: .

It seems the lucrative market is now in the flanti rubbers ....


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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2021, 23:51 
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Blade: DMS Carbon Deluxe
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Just got a sheet of this yesterday. Need to put this on my Deluxe Carbon blade and give it a try. Sponge seems soft, it's a dark grey colored sponge that I haven't seen before.

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PostPosted: 25 Nov 2021, 19:48 
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Waiting for your review dwruck !

I started playing with it ~ 2 weeks ago and got the opportunity to do some league matches in addition to my regular train session.

It's a very peculiar rubber. Definitely an upgrade of the A-B-S 2 Evo, at least the same control, a tad more speed and a little more spin reversal.

But spin reversal is still inferior to Super Glanti or Störkraft... One day I need to do a head to head test to see what's the pros and cons of each rubber.

It's still a great rubber I've been able to beat a 1200 player (french rating) in the team championship and finished first in the local individual championship with a perfect run of 8 victories beating players rated between 650 and 850.

Recently I found that if I blocked out of the bounce early as possible without moving the bat and with a loose wrist I was able to get a very short and low block which was very toxic.

I'll play with it this Saturday for the team championship, level between 1000 and 1600.

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BH - Barna Original Super Glanti 0.8mm red

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BH - Dr. Neubauer A-B-S 2 Pro 2.0mm


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PostPosted: 29 Nov 2021, 05:26 
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Dr Neubauer ABS2 PRO:

Test ABS2 PRO 2.0 black on Dr Neubauer Matador Texa Carbon.

Short review: i will compare it with the ABS 2 EVO 2.1 black on Matador Texa Carbon:

- Better reversal than ABS 2 EVO in general
- Blocking active and passive can be done like the discription said: blocking passive with more reversal than ABS2 EVO,
lenght is more or less the same. I’m not out of here yet, it is a close call.
- Better attacking possibilities than ABS 2 EVO
- Control is more or less the same:, but if I have to choose, i choose the EVO version for little better control
- ABS2 PRO version is faster in general: I liked the more attacking possibilities,
that was the most important update for me. (As well with the slightly better reversal )


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PostPosted: 29 Nov 2021, 23:52 
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I've had a couple of sessions with it on the robot. Like with the other versions of ABS, it is different from the DMS rubbers. It was faster than I expected, but that being said, it was controllable. I had to adjust my technique, as with DMS rubbers I need to push the racquet forward, while with ABS2 Pro a steady, passive hand with a light grip was best against heavy pace/spin. Obviously compared to the DMS rubbers this one is "fast". And it struck me as being a little faster than the previous versions of ABS and ABS2. That being said, I didn't feel that the control was bad. Most shots I was able to return towards the edge of the table. Against slower top spin, it is possible to drop the ball for a double bounce on the other side, but with this rubber you aren't going to get many where you drop it very short over the net. Reversal did seem better than the previous versions of ABS and ABS2. Attacking was also very good. The thing this rubber has going for it is, at least for me on the Deluxe Carbon blade, the throw was very low. Both when defending and attacking, the ball was like a line drive staying low and relatively fast.
I have a session scheduled with my coach on Wednesday where I will try it out. At that point I'll feel more confident about my overall feedback.

What I'm starting to really understand is that, so far, with frictionless anti there are two different styles you can play. One is with DMS style rubbers where the goal is to get the maximum reversal and slow speed to set up an attack, whether that be a twiddle or step around. The other is a Dr Neubauer style where the goal is control, surprise the opponent with speed and give yourself some offensive capabilities. You'd still want to look to twiddle or step around with this style. However, you likely won't get as many "free" points from the rubber's effects. Classic trade-off. From a philosophical standpoint, I'm not sure which style best suits me yet. As I'm getting older, I lean towards the more defensive style, but I'm going to give a little try to both and see where I land.

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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2021, 04:22 
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This rubber isn't for me. I played too much time with the dms rubbers, and my gesture is adapted to them. I can see the pros with this rubber, in particular in the offensive side but I'm not ready to trade the loss of spin reversal for better attacking possibilities.

I will stick with my Super Glanti

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BH - Barna Original Super Glanti 0.8mm red

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BH - Dr. Neubauer A-B-S 2 Pro 2.0mm


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PostPosted: 30 Nov 2021, 04:55 
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I suspect that I will end up making the same determination. Having that spin reversal and ability to counter hard serves by being able to drop them short is something I really like about the DMS rubbers, and when playing good attackers I think I will find that most useful. But, I'm keeping an open mind for now. :)

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