OOAK Table Tennis Forum


A truly International Table Tennis Community for both Defensive and Offensive styles!
OOAK Forum Links About OOAK Table Tennis Forum OOAK Forum Memory
It is currently 28 Nov 2023, 19:11


Don't want to see any advertising? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2023, 01:11 
Offline
Hurricane Lover
Hurricane Lover
User avatar

Joined: 09 Mar 2008, 19:19
Posts: 2824
Location: Indonesia
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 217 times
Blade: DHS Long 2
FH: Dianchi D
BH: Yinhe Pluto
I tried Jahanam rubbers, one medium pips I bought a few years ago and one long pips I bought several months ago. Both stank mild to medium strength and very slightly oily. Doesn’t look and doesn’t feel it when you brush your hand on the rubbers. But after awhile of playing you’ll notice it on the ball (become slightly oily). I put both rubbers under coffee grinds to alleviate the smell and oil for a few days, but both failed. Well, the rubbers now have coffee smell somewhat, but still slightly oily. It’s actually not as oily as others I’ve seen before. The bad ones you can tell right away after a hit or two leaving marks on your inverted rubbers and the ball.

_________________
instagram: rokphishtt


Top
 Profile  
 


Don't want to see this advertisement? Become a member and login, and you'll never see an ad again!

 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2023, 06:47 
Offline
Super User

Joined: 29 Dec 2012, 03:21
Posts: 248
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 14 times
Thanks Iskandar
I’d like to buy both those rubbers but although I can get to the site it won’t accept my UK address or allow me to play. Any suggestions on how I can get hold of them
Thanks for your help


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 27 Oct 2023, 02:17 
Offline
OOAK Super User
OOAK Super User
User avatar

Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 09:24
Posts: 1325
Location: Universe
Has thanked: 21 times
Been thanked: 99 times
Look for a local citizen of Indonesia. Yes, I know a guy willing to dispatch Shopee goods overseas.
_________________________
Be happy, very happy, still more happy.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 28 Oct 2023, 05:26 
Offline
Super User

Joined: 29 Dec 2012, 03:21
Posts: 248
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 14 times
Can you supply his contact details


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 31 Oct 2023, 04:02 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 12 Jul 2021, 00:39
Posts: 6
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
TTnightmare wrote:
Does anyone know of any long pips over the max permitted length for comparison play. Also the pips would need to be thin. Not bothered about being on LARC as only play fun recreational TT now


If you are looking for a functionla chopping super pips rubber from Indonesia, the two rubbers below seems to come close
I have not tested these two & I definitely do not recommend them if they are treated pips
I could not find these Shopee in any other countries such as Malaysia or Phillpines
I found these only in Shopee Malaysia
Both rubbers are at available at Shopee Indonesia
The Aspect Ratio seems good but PDD seems not high enough but may be enough to maximize backspin but you can tell only after using it


JAHANAM "RAWARONTEK
Unboxing & Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1OOKLf6DJM
Below is Shopee Indonesia ONLY. I could not find this is Malaysia etc
https://shopee.co.id/BINTIK-JAHANAM-RAWARONTEXX-i.37330004.8553369512
Pip Height 3 mm divided by diameter 1.6 mm gives an Aspect Ratio of 1.875
PDD 1.5 mm
JAHANAM SABOTASE
Unboxing & Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js9YuIsV5c0
Below is Shopee Indonesia ONLY. I could not find this is Malaysia etc
https://shopee.co.id/Karet-bintik-JAHANAM-SABOTASE-i.116964489.7503469592
Pip Height 3.2mm divided by diameter 2mm gives an Aspect Ratio of 1.6
PDD is not listed

The webpage above also lists a bunch of Super Pips listed below but they all seem blocking type because the PDD seems low by looking at the rubber visually (or some have spec. listed listed). You want horizontal pip alignment for chopping and vertical pip alignment for blocking. Again I do not recommend if these are treated pip buy I do not know which ones are treated & which ones are not.

Jahanam Dragons Tail
Jahanam Sabotase
Jahanam Radioaktif
Jahanam Eltoro
Jahanam Criminals
Jahanam Impact
Jahanam Underdog
Jahanam Vertigo
Jahanam GPK
Jahanam pitbull

Dragons Tail has logo on two sided so it can be cut to be used as either a vertically aligned rubber or horizontal . But I do not know how it matters because it matters only for ITTF approval. But I think Andro Hexar rubber is like this but not approved by ITTF


Last edited by LoopBlock on 02 Nov 2023, 00:30, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 31 Oct 2023, 08:31 
Offline
Senior member

Joined: 20 Sep 2017, 19:53
Posts: 193
Has thanked: 24 times
Been thanked: 50 times
Blade: Tibhar: Fortino Pro
FH: Andro: Rasanter R48 Max
BH: Spinlord: Leviathan 1A ox
Hey S Jan, just out of interest what’s your USATT rating? Or rating central score?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: 01 Nov 2023, 17:26 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 12 Jul 2021, 00:39
Posts: 6
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
TTnightmare wrote:
Thanks Iskandar
I’d like to buy both those rubbers but although I can get to the site it won’t accept my UK address or allow me to play. Any suggestions on how I can get hold of them
Thanks for your help


TTnightmare wrote:
Can you supply his contact details


Except for the chopping long pips I mentioned (RAWARONTEK & sabotese) , all other Indonesian long pips seem to be available at Shopee Malaysia.
So why can't Iskandar Taib buy them and ship them to you & you can pay him ?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 02 Nov 2023, 21:56 
Offline
OOAK Super User
OOAK Super User
User avatar

Joined: 10 Jun 2007, 09:24
Posts: 1325
Location: Universe
Has thanked: 21 times
Been thanked: 99 times
TTnightmare wrote:
Can you supply his contact details


Rokphish2 could be of real help, ask him for transaction from Indonesian Shoppe.
Otherwise you need a local reseller.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2023, 01:22 
Offline
Hurricane Lover
Hurricane Lover
User avatar

Joined: 09 Mar 2008, 19:19
Posts: 2824
Location: Indonesia
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 217 times
Blade: DHS Long 2
FH: Dianchi D
BH: Yinhe Pluto
LoopBlock wrote:
TTnightmare wrote:
Does anyone know of any long pips over the max permitted length for comparison play. Also the pips would need to be thin. Not bothered about being on LARC as only play fun recreational TT now


If you are looking for a functionla chopping super pips rubber from Indonesia, the two rubbers below seems to come close
I have not tested these two & I definitely do not recommend them if they are treated pips
I could not find these Shopee in any other countries such as Malaysia or Phillpines
I found these only in Shopee Malaysia
Both rubbers are at available at Shopee Indonesia
The Aspect Ratio seems good but PDD seems not high enough but may be enough to maximize backspin but you can tell only after using it


JAHANAM "RAWARONTEK
Unboxing & Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1OOKLf6DJM
Below is Shopee Indonesia ONLY. I could not find this is Malaysia etc
https://shopee.co.id/BINTIK-JAHANAM-RAWARONTEXX-i.37330004.8553369512
Pip Height 3 mm divided by diameter 1.6 mm gives an Aspect Ratio of 1.875
PDD 1.5 mm
JAHANAM SABOTASE
Unboxing & Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js9YuIsV5c0
Below is Shopee Indonesia ONLY. I could not find this is Malaysia etc
https://shopee.co.id/Karet-bintik-JAHANAM-SABOTASE-i.116964489.7503469592
Pip Height 3.2mm divided by diameter 2mm gives an Aspect Ratio of 1.6
PDD is not listed

The webpage above also lists a bunch of Super Pips listed below but they all seem blocking type because the PDD seems low by looking at the rubber visually (or some have spec. listed listed). You want horizontal pip alignment for chopping and vertical pip alignment for blocking. Again I do not recommend if these are treated pip buy I do not know which ones are treated & which ones are not.

Jahanam Dragons Tail
Jahanam Sabotase
Jahanam Radioaktif
Jahanam Eltoro
Jahanam Criminals
Jahanam Impact
Jahanam Underdog
Jahanam Vertigo
Jahanam GPK
Jahanam pitbull

Dragons Tail has logo on two sided so it can be cut to be used as either a vertically aligned rubber or horizontal . But I do not know how it matters because it matters only for ITTF approval. But I think Andro Hexar rubber is like this but not approved by ITTF
As far as I know all of Jahanam is treated.

_________________
instagram: rokphishtt


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2023, 01:23 
Offline
Hurricane Lover
Hurricane Lover
User avatar

Joined: 09 Mar 2008, 19:19
Posts: 2824
Location: Indonesia
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 217 times
Blade: DHS Long 2
FH: Dianchi D
BH: Yinhe Pluto
I can’t help anymore because I moved to China since early September.

_________________
instagram: rokphishtt


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2023, 04:27 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 22 Jan 2022, 10:19
Posts: 6
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
rokphish2 wrote:
I can’t help anymore because I moved to China since early September.


How can I contact the manufacturers of above rubbers in Indonesia ?

Will any of them make custom rubbers ?

Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2023, 04:39 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 22 Jan 2022, 10:19
Posts: 6
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
rokphish2 wrote:
I tried Jahanam rubbers, one medium pips I bought a few years ago and one long pips I bought several months ago. Both stank mild to medium strength and very slightly oily. Doesn’t look and doesn’t feel it when you brush your hand on the rubbers. But after awhile of playing you’ll notice it on the ball (become slightly oily). I put both rubbers under coffee grinds to alleviate the smell and oil for a few days, but both failed. Well, the rubbers now have coffee smell somewhat, but still slightly oily. It’s actually not as oily as others I’ve seen before. The bad ones you can tell right away after a hit or two leaving marks on your inverted rubbers and the ball.


Since you are in China now, do you (or anyone else in forums) know how to contact the manufacturers of Magic 77 & other (non treated) super pips manufacturers like MO Avalox, Globe Mo Wang 3 , Reach c801 or the Koran & Indonesian Super pips manufacturers ?

I heard some manufacturers listed in Ali Baba can make custom rubbers & blades in small quantities. Do you happen to know who they may be in China & how to contact them ?

Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2023, 07:52 
Offline
New Member

Joined: 22 Jan 2022, 10:19
Posts: 6
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 2 times
rokphish2 wrote:
. Well, the rubbers now have coffee smell somewhat, .


The market is wide open for flavored rubbers (like vanilla, chocolate, spicy, fruity etc) as well rubbers that smell like cologne for men & perfume for women.
My favorite flavor is Amaretto
I guess it is too late foe 2023 Holiday Season

At least they could start putting the above in packaging. Given how vain table tennis players are (with zero regard for actual functionalty of a blade or rubber) most especially pips players, these can be great marketing gimmicks for manufacturers as ultimate tools of seduction of the vulnerable.


Last edited by chen on 21 Nov 2023, 08:37, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2023, 08:24 
Offline
Hurricane Lover
Hurricane Lover
User avatar

Joined: 09 Mar 2008, 19:19
Posts: 2824
Location: Indonesia
Has thanked: 140 times
Been thanked: 217 times
Blade: DHS Long 2
FH: Dianchi D
BH: Yinhe Pluto
I have some contacts for Sanwei, Sword, and Yinhe, but they don’t do small quantities.

_________________
instagram: rokphishtt


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Longest long pips
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2023, 13:08 
Offline
Goes to 11
Goes to 11
User avatar

Joined: 13 Jan 2014, 20:27
Posts: 10522
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 1355 times
The Chinese stuff can be had on AliExpress. The Indonesian stuff? I don't buy and ship stuff for people, having gotten burned once. I'd say, try establishing an account on Shoppee and contacting the seller via their in-app chat.

Incidentally, Kokutaku is now selling Old Man Huang's rubber - available on AliExpress. I posted about it elsewhere.

Iskandar


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 30 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2



All times are UTC + 9:30 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot], treble and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Copyright 2018 OOAK Table Tennis Forum. The information on this site cannot be reused without written permission.

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group