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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2024, 16:14 
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Hello everyone.
I have been playing rubber with pips relatively recently, only half a year. I have already tried quite a few options in terms of both: rubbers and the racquets. Currently playing with Tibhar Grass Dtec OX (almost a month), however i am facing a problem: in many cases fast serves, strong topspin or loops "travel beyond the net". This is probably mostly down to my poor BH game, too much wrist tension and a bad angle, but many colleagues feel that "slower pips" should be used. In principle I like Dtecs and I don't really want to change them, but I read about TCP Curl P3a-r from time to time. They seem to be slower and maybe my problem will be solved.But what worries me is - how my game will suffer ie. reverse, deception?

My style of play: BH block/chop block close to the table or slightly away from it, I try to force the player to make a mistake and finish everything with strong FH. I never attack BH, and due to lack of skills I often use passive block.

Does anyone have any tips since you recognize your game? Is the Dtecs very different from the TSP Curl p3ar?

Any advice would be appreciated.


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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2024, 16:30 
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DTecs is a fast pip, what blade are you using?

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merlin el mago wrote:
DTecs is a fast pip, what blade are you using?


Re-Impact Rapier 44.


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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2024, 23:23 
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Try Dornenglanz for an OX pip in that same high reversal / disturbance category that doesn’t have that same bouncy zip. I find DTecs too fast to be enjoyable to use.


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Vinnie wrote:
Try Dornenglanz for an OX pip in that same high reversal / disturbance category that doesn’t have that same bouncy zip. I find DTecs too fast to be enjoyable to use.


Are you talking about the Dornenglanz (first model)?
Because as far as I was concerned, there are still II and III (Dornenglanz III would appear to be the slowest), but I wonder how much these versions (Dornenglanz, Dornenglanz II and Dornenglanz III) and their parameters differ in reality.


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I had a fast blade with D.tecs and had the same issue.
I than went to Hellfire X. Also very good in spinreversal but way, way slower.

I now changed my blade to a wood only and less fast and trying the D.tecs again.
I try chop/blocks close to the table as well, but I also attack with the pips the D.tecs are awesome for that.
But the fast hard balls long on the table are indeed the harder to control ones.
Goint to test now a few matches and if it's still to fast i'm back to helffire X.

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I had a fast blade with D.tecs and had the same issue.
I than went to Hellfire X. Also very good in spin reversal but way, way slower.

I now changed my blade to a wood only and less fast and trying the D.tecs again.
I try chop/blocks close to the table as well, but I also attack with the pips the D.tecs are awesome for that.
But the fast hard balls long on the table are indeed the harder ones to control.
Goint to test now a few matches and if it's still to fast i'm back to helffire X.


What about the quality of the Hellfire X? I read about them, and it really interested me, but I was put off by the fact that a lot of people write that it doesn't take two weeks and one by one the pips start to fall out.


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Taute wrote:
merlin el mago wrote:
DTecs is a fast pip, what blade are you using?


Re-Impact Rapier 44.


That's a very very slow blade, better look for other slower pips.

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Hi, tried lots of rubbers after the super block ban.
For my close to the table game blocking,agressive pushing, Dtechs OX IMHO is the best.
The reversal for passive blocks is good and a slower rubber may be easier to block but reversal poorer.
Practise pushing aggresively with a sideways motion which helps to keep the ball low.
More practise, methinks.
All the best.


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Hi Guys
I have tried so many rubbers since the ban.
I always end up going back to Grass DTecS ox.
I use a Koji Matsushita Original.
I only struggle with my chosen rubber when I am playing badly.
Stick with it. Loose grip when blocking passively. Take topspin shots right off the bounce.
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Geodor wrote:
Practise pushing aggresively with a sideways motion which helps to keep the ball low.

That is excellent advice! :up:

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Bulldog wrote:
Hi Guys
I have tried so many rubbers since the ban.
I always end up going back to Grass DTecS ox.
I only struggle with my chosen rubber when I am playing badly.

That's exactly the same for me :lol: :lol: :lol: makes me wonder how similar our styles are 8)

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Bulldog wrote:
Hi Guys
I have tried so many rubbers since the ban.
I always end up going back to Grass DTecS ox.
I use a Koji Matsushita Original.
I only struggle with my chosen rubber when I am playing badly.
Stick with it. Loose grip when blocking passively. Take topspin shots right off the bounce.
Bulldog.


Koji Matsushita Original blade it's a fast blade to play close to the table, if you see Koji vídeos playing he don't play close to the table, he's a classic defensive chopper long distance far from the table.

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Taute wrote:
GarField000 wrote:
I had a fast blade with D.tecs and had the same issue.
I than went to Hellfire X. Also very good in spin reversal but way, way slower.

I now changed my blade to a wood only and less fast and trying the D.tecs again.
I try chop/blocks close to the table as well, but I also attack with the pips the D.tecs are awesome for that.
But the fast hard balls long on the table are indeed the harder ones to control.
Goint to test now a few matches and if it's still to fast i'm back to helffire X.


What about the quality of the Hellfire X? I read about them, and it really interested me, but I was put off by the fact that a lot of people write that it doesn't take two weeks and one by one the pips start to fall out.


Possible a bad rubber, S&T are quality, Spinlord & D.M.S. aren't quality.

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