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Dont know - but this doesn't matter ...

The pips are not really hard, but harder than Badman/D.TecS/Dragon Talon. They are much softer than Palio 531 or Bomb Talent. They also are not really sticky (as most inverted chinese rubbers) - in the long run they may remain grippy - I hope this doesn't change too much.

The best thing (apart from the chop-block backspin) is the low trajectory. I wondered that I seldom pushed the ball over the table - the above training video is nearly uncut (I only cut out some ball fetching actions).

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German TTR: ~1750 --> USATT ~2200
Material A: BBC X-Fusion, Hellfire OX, Vega Pro 2.0mm, 166g
Material B: BBC 8.5-10-8.5, Dornenglanz OX, Vega Pro 1.8mm, 157g

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Some pictures ...

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German TTR: ~1750 --> USATT ~2200
Material A: BBC X-Fusion, Hellfire OX, Vega Pro 2.0mm, 166g
Material B: BBC 8.5-10-8.5, Dornenglanz OX, Vega Pro 1.8mm, 157g

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Looks like it's high quality, as always from SpinLord!

If you compare pure spin reversal, IE if you hold your bat completely still against a loop, how is the reversal compared to new/old D.Tecs?

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I have to do further tests - because chopping is more effective I only practised chopping (emergency block excepted).
Old D.TecS should be unique in this discipline - but DG may be good too.

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German TTR: ~1750 --> USATT ~2200
Material A: BBC X-Fusion, Hellfire OX, Vega Pro 2.0mm, 166g
Material B: BBC 8.5-10-8.5, Dornenglanz OX, Vega Pro 1.8mm, 157g

Link: Pimp-My-Blade-Forum

A friend tested the rubber and said that since the ban of the Insider, the LP which is the less insensitive to incoming spin is the DG.

Cheers,
Ma'man

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BH : Octopus Ox red

This is getting better and better, with a big chunk of luck I might get my sheet tonight and will be able to test it tomorrow, otherwise I'll be able to test it Monday/Tuesday.

It's still wrinkling my mind that this seems to be so insensitive to spin but with a very grippy surface. If you're friends statement is correct it's even more insensitive compared to the old D.Tecs which is promising since D.Tecs been totally unchallenged in this area, up til now.

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I haven't got mine yet, but supposedly this stuff looks treated (very shiny). TTDD says that is exactly what the ITTF approved. If the rubber is really better than D.Tecs, I wonder if we'll hear baseless treating accusations because of the shine (not a lot of players/officials familiar Spinlord products in some countries).

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Well - it is definitely more shiny than D.TecS/Badman/... . But my opponent didn't recognize the new pips until they throw each block into the net.

And if you touch it with finger or ball, it is obvious that it is very grippy. Thus I think/hope there will be no diskussions when the saison starts next week.

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German TTR: ~1750 --> USATT ~2200
Material A: BBC X-Fusion, Hellfire OX, Vega Pro 2.0mm, 166g
Material B: BBC 8.5-10-8.5, Dornenglanz OX, Vega Pro 1.8mm, 157g

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Haïfu's Octopus & Mo Wang are quite shinny too but theses pips ain't treated.

Cheers,
Ma'man

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Blade : TSP Toccata Carbon Def
FH : Shark II 33° 2mm Black
BH : Octopus Ox red

I got my sheet in the mail tonight and will give it a test tomorrow. The surface feels grippy and when I spin it with the inverted and bounce it with the LP it feels grippier than D.Tecs but that might change when putting pressure on it, I'll post my thoughts tomorrow.

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Judging from the service returns it looks quite insensitive to spin, and it looks very controlled in the blocks. In 1h I'll be able to test it, can't wait

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So how was it?

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Testers, please also post findings on durability. An LP that sheds pips is of little use to tournament players where one broken pip can render a sheet of LP illegal.

I had a good 2-3h practice this morning and was able to switch between the Dornenglanz and D.Tecs, both on Donic Defplay blades with Calibra LT on FH. I will make a similar list as Variatio but with my findings after one session.

Speed: old>new>DG
Control: DG>new>old
Chop-Block-Backspin: DG>new>old
Emergency blocks: old>new>DG
Disturbing effect: old>new>DG
Spin sensitivity: DG>new>old
Aggressive Push against backspin: old>new>DG
Chopping: old>new>DG

The pure reversal was definitely less than D.Tecs (new) but it was definitely more than all the other LP's I've tried, chop-blocking was really good and with a lower throw angle than D.Tecs. Control was definitely better than D.Tecs when blocking but backspin did bite more compared to D.Tecs and the reversal wasn't as good in this area. Chopping wasn't as good as with D.Tecs and in this area I even had more control with D.Tecs. If I was focusing on blocking at the table and being a defensive blocking wall I would probably use the Dornenglanz but since I rely on my LP to set my FH up I think D.Tecs is the best choice for me. I can push harder and with more reversal and when I play off the table D.Tecs performs better.

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