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PostPosted: 27 May 2013, 05:36 
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Looks great! When are you going to start selling it?

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Preorders are possible from now on. The rubber will be sent out around middle of July.

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PostPosted: 21 Jun 2013, 18:17 
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from the video, it looks very promising


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Where on the site could I order a sheet? The shop link shows coming soon...


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Where on the site could I order a sheet? The shop link shows coming soon...

You have to send an eMail to [email protected] with your order :)


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PostPosted: 24 Jun 2013, 23:04 
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Kees wrote:
The cover indicates that speed is 40, control 95, both very much ok, but "effect/disruption" is 80, which is something like Friendship 755. Every serious LP has disruption over 90. Of course, they may have their own special way of computing figures, but it would make sense to give values inj accordance with mainstream LP manufacturers like Neubauer or Tibhar. Perhaps this rubber is so near-frictionless, that it is quite predictable for opponents (who understand LPs). It may still be a very good rubber, though. A different explanation is that not disturbance, but capability of producing effect (off incoming spin) is indicated; in that case, 80 is pretty high.


Not necessarily so, deep chopping long pips do not have disruption over 90 -cases in point: Feint Long 2 & 3, TSP Curl PR-1 and P4 are used at the world level....

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so is this close to being a slow dtecs that some of us have been wishing for for years?

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We have news about the new plastic balls:

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8hsym3varg&feature=c4-overview&list=UU4JHxdWWy0xi112lNhn6Www[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZltBZhd1sA&list=UU4JHxdWWy0xi112lNhn6Www[/youtube]
It's quite difficult to try LP in a game coz I tend to overuse LP :) and abandon my FH. It became somewhat predictable for my opp.

Appearance - well made. Like all good rubbers.

Top of pips has textured, not smooth. Soft.

I Played 2 matches - Here's what I think
A+ at lifting underspin ball.
A+ at control direction and depth. Due to it's softness, I can feel the ball and has good control with it.
B - B+ at chopping.
C at spin reversal from blocking. I'm not a pure blocker but John Wetzler also feel the same. John can keep ball low I'll let John uses it in game on Monday night.

I feel like this LP is good for active style, attacking and hitting.

Will test more.

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US Postal Service finally delivered the test sheet to me today. Will start testing it extensively on Monday. :)


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uh-oh, that's not what I wanted to hear about blocking

speed?

what's John's regular rubber?

your game looks better than 1600


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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8hsym3varg&feature=c4-overview&list=UU4JHxdWWy0xi112lNhn6Www[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZltBZhd1sA&list=UU4JHxdWWy0xi112lNhn6Www[/youtube]
It's quite difficult to try LP in a game coz I tend to overuse LP :) and abandon my FH. It became somewhat predictable for my opp.

Appearance - well made. Like all good rubbers.

Top of pips has textured, not smooth. Soft.

I Played 2 matches - Here's what I think
A+ at lifting underspin ball.
A+ at control direction and depth. Due to it's softness, I can feel the ball and has good control with it.
B - B+ at chopping.
C at spin reversal from blocking. I'm not a pure blocker but John Wetzler also feel the same. John can keep ball low I'll let John uses it in game on Monday night.

I feel like this LP is good for active style, attacking and hitting.

Will test more.

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uh-oh, that's not what I wanted to hear about blocking

I was alarmed by that spin-reversal rating too. I have a sheet on order that hopefully will be here soon and I can verify.

Grass D.Tecs is still the gold standard for long pips blocking as far as I'm concerned, but I was REALLY hoping this would be better.

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Spent about two hours with it so far... Feels remarkably similar to Talon ox, just slightly slower but with somewhat better control in all strokes. The pips are somewhat firmer than Talon. The pips tops are textured and pick up dust easily, which reduces friction a bit after an hour of playing. Spin reversal is typical for this type of pips, which means it's there but fairly easy for experienced opponents to deal with. Definitely does not produce the type of #[email protected]! balls as often as Dtecs ox (the kind that elicit loud cursing from opponents :lol: ), which means better control for the user as well. I mounted it on a Firewall Plus to enhance its reversal characteristics.

My preliminary conclusion is it's a very playable LPs for the close to the table blocker but definitely not for the passive, beginner level type. To get the most out of it you'd need a flexible and active wrist. Against topspin it's important to feel the ball with the tip of the pips first while blocking the ball, then apply appropriate force to guide the ball quickly forward/downward (or sideways) without bottoming out the pips too much. In other words, a small block-chop motion is needed to achieve desirable spin reversal against most topspin drives, whereas a "stick the blade out and hope for the best" block will mostly scrub the spin off the ball and produce an easy return for your opponent to kill. It's very easy to chop all kind of balls with it as the feeling is very linear and predictable, and "meaty" enough to push against underspin with authority. All in all it's an excellent control LPs for the "modern" close to the table LPs blocker who can also attack as well as defend. Probably the best of its kind by the slightest margin. Will test further this week against other opponents.


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John uses Yasaka Phantom 007 OX Black. Blade : Donic carbon blade.
Here's what he said -
007 is better when dealing with no spin ball.
Fast aggressive chop block - HF is better.
Just stick it out and let rubber do the work - 007 is better.


I think even not designed to chop it's pretty good at full swing chopping.
attacking underspin ball - this's where this rubber is A+.


The kid in this video is estimated 2100. Lost to Derek Nie 3-2 last Sunday.

IMO, the closest rubber to hellfire is Yung 638.......Yung 638 still better than hellfire.



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Note: Yung is not an ITTF approved rubber.

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