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 Post subject: Type of wood.
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2021, 12:32 
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Could you tell me if the type of wood influences the reversal effect, for example I have a firewall and a halmark combination, which one would help more in the reverse effect?


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 Post subject: Re: Type of wood.
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2021, 17:02 
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A harder outer ply increases reversal. Also a faster blade has more reversal. I don't know which of these would be better for reversal though, I've only tried the Firewall, where reversal was quite good.

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I think balsa is good for reversal, chop-blocking and push-blocking. Softer woods or blades some flex are less so, but IMO allow much better off the table chopping and more conventional attack strokes (with some adjustment). A true push with balsa is a pop-up about to happen for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Type of wood.
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Blade with carbon next to top ply if you can control it is a bigger jump in reversal than difference between woods in my experience

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 Post subject: Re: Type of wood.
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The best veneers (for reversals and disruptions) I have used are koto and white ash. Both woods are relatively hard amongst the veneers used for TT blades.

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haggisv wrote:
A harder outer ply increases reversal. Also a faster blade has more reversal.


TOTALLY incorrect. A harder ply will have a lower dwell time. How could it increase reversal ? It actually decreases reversal.
A harder ply is meant for an offensive blade such as for a short pips attacker.

A slower blade will have more reversal because of higher dwell time.

A harder ply will shoot off the ball due to lower dwell time.


haggisv wrote:
I've only tried the Firewall, where reversal was quite good.


I do not know about the composition of Dr.Neubauer Firewall, so I won't comment on that

Hallmark Combination Ultra is one of the best combo blades because of different offensive / defensive sides. I don't know the layer composition but it is one of the best blades for long pips combination blade with long pips on defensive side & either inverted or short pips on offensive side. But I think this has been discontinued (Well I guess there is no Hallmark anymore)


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 Post subject: Re: Type of wood.
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haggisv wrote:
A harder outer ply increases reversal. Also a faster blade has more reversal.


denmer wrote:
TOTALLY incorrect. A harder ply will have a lower dwell time. How could it increase reversal ? It actually decreases reversal.
A harder ply is meant for an offensive blade such as for a short pips attacker.

A slower blade will have more reversal because of higher dwell time.

A harder ply will shoot off the ball due to lower dwell time.


Denmer - Although, I appreciate the confidence and conviction in your logic & statement, I would have to (atleast in part) agree with Haggisv...

For close-to-the-table blocking (or even for a bit of attacking with LP), hard'sh / stiff'ish blades work well .. Infact, the lower dwell-time, better-aids the reversal & even LP drives..... Yes, if you are an chopper, who's capable of generating his own spin, and uses LPs than can do so, then you MAY prefer a blade that's slightly less hard and a tad on the flexible side...Bare in mind, that I'm saying less hard, and it should not be interpreted as entirely soft. I feel, the above hold true, especially with these new ABS balls... This is based, just on my experiences, playing-style and skill..


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ootbs wrote:
Infact, the lower dwell-time, better-aids the reversal


Ok you keep believing that


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denmer wrote:
ootbs wrote:
Infact, the lower dwell-time, better-aids the reversal


Ok you keep believing that


...well, I believe it cause it works for me ... or, does it work for me, cause I believe in it ... ;)

Actually, my bit about dwell-time, is not entirely complete... Once again, it depends on the pips, and style of playing..

some pips, work better, when the balls sinks a but into the pips .. But, I feel, the release part that comes after the sink, is where the hard/stiff blades play an important role..


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 Post subject: Re: Type of wood.
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Yeah Im going to side with Haggisv and Ootbs on this one. Reversal is stronger on stiff hard blades.


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Denmer by "reversal" do you mean reversal or spin continuation? Short contact time allows spin continuation which (ironically) is often termed "reversal" in the LP world...

Do we all mean the same thing?


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it has always been said here in Brazil that when using a harder wood it is better to use a softer long pips and a harder pips for a softer wood. I'm trying with the firewall and it's ok. It's working for now.


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Is that you Hubeer?

Indeed...he does not respect that he's banned from this forum.

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vanjr wrote:
Denmer by "reversal" do you mean reversal or spin continuation? Short contact time allows spin continuation which (ironically) is often termed "reversal" in the LP world... Do we all mean the same thing?

Yes you're quite right, the question was about spin "reversal" which refers to spin continuation, which is indeed maximised by the shortest contact time and the lowest grip. The question was NOT about the maximum amount of spin you can generate.

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