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I tried Jahanam rubbers, one medium pips I bought a few years ago and one long pips I bought several months ago. Both stank mild to medium strength and very slightly oily. Doesn’t look and doesn’t feel it when you brush your hand on the rubbers. But after awhile of playing you’ll notice it on the ball (become slightly oily). I put both rubbers under coffee grinds to alleviate the smell and oil for a few days, but both failed. Well, the rubbers now have coffee smell somewhat, but still slightly oily. It’s actually not as oily as others I’ve seen before. The bad ones you can tell right away after a hit or two leaving marks on your inverted rubbers and the ball.

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Thanks Iskandar
I’d like to buy both those rubbers but although I can get to the site it won’t accept my UK address or allow me to play. Any suggestions on how I can get hold of them
Thanks for your help

Look for a local citizen of Indonesia. Yes, I know a guy willing to dispatch Shopee goods overseas.
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Can you supply his contact details

If you are looking for a functionla chopping super pips rubber from Indonesia, the two rubbers below seems to come close
I have not tested these two & I definitely do not recommend them if they are treated pips
I could not find these Shopee in any other countries such as Malaysia or Phillpines
I found these only in Shopee Malaysia
Both rubbers are at available at Shopee Indonesia
The Aspect Ratio seems good but PDD seems not high enough but may be enough to maximize backspin but you can tell only after using it


JAHANAM "RAWARONTEK
Unboxing & Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1OOKLf6DJM
Below is Shopee Indonesia ONLY. I could not find this is Malaysia etc
https://shopee.co.id/BINTIK-JAHANAM-RAWARONTEXX-i.37330004.8553369512
Pip Height 3 mm divided by diameter 1.6 mm gives an Aspect Ratio of 1.875
PDD 1.5 mm
JAHANAM SABOTASE
Unboxing & Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js9YuIsV5c0
Below is Shopee Indonesia ONLY. I could not find this is Malaysia etc
https://shopee.co.id/Karet-bintik-JAHANAM-SABOTASE-i.116964489.7503469592
Pip Height 3.2mm divided by diameter 2mm gives an Aspect Ratio of 1.6
PDD is not listed

The webpage above also lists a bunch of Super Pips listed below but they all seem blocking type because the PDD seems low by looking at the rubber visually (or some have spec. listed listed). You want horizontal pip alignment for chopping and vertical pip alignment for blocking. Again I do not recommend if these are treated pip buy I do not know which ones are treated & which ones are not.

Jahanam Dragons Tail
Jahanam Sabotase
Jahanam Radioaktif
Jahanam Eltoro
Jahanam Criminals
Jahanam Impact
Jahanam Underdog
Jahanam Vertigo
Jahanam GPK
Jahanam pitbull

Dragons Tail has logo on two sided so it can be cut to be used as either a vertically aligned rubber or horizontal . But I do not know how it matters because it matters only for ITTF approval. But I think Andro Hexar rubber is like this but not approved by ITTF

Hey S Jan, just out of interest what’s your USATT rating? Or rating central score?

Except for the chopping long pips I mentioned (RAWARONTEK & sabotese) , all other Indonesian long pips seem to be available at Shopee Malaysia.
So why can't Iskandar Taib buy them and ship them to you & you can pay him ?

Rokphish2 could be of real help, ask him for transaction from Indonesian Shoppe.
Otherwise you need a local reseller.

As far as I know all of Jahanam is treated.

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I can’t help anymore because I moved to China since early September.

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How can I contact the manufacturers of above rubbers in Indonesia ?

Will any of them make custom rubbers ?

Thanks

Since you are in China now, do you (or anyone else in forums) know how to contact the manufacturers of Magic 77 & other (non treated) super pips manufacturers like MO Avalox, Globe Mo Wang 3 , Reach c801 or the Koran & Indonesian Super pips manufacturers ?

I heard some manufacturers listed in Ali Baba can make custom rubbers & blades in small quantities. Do you happen to know who they may be in China & how to contact them ?

Thanks

The market is wide open for flavored rubbers (like vanilla, chocolate, spicy, fruity etc) as well rubbers that smell like cologne for men & perfume for women.
My favorite flavor is Amaretto
I guess it is too late foe 2023 Holiday Season

At least they could start putting the above in packaging. Given how vain table tennis players are (with zero regard for actual functionalty of a blade or rubber) most especially pips players, these can be great marketing gimmicks for manufacturers as ultimate tools of seduction of the vulnerable.

I have some contacts for Sanwei, Sword, and Yinhe, but they don’t do small quantities.

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The Chinese stuff can be had on AliExpress. The Indonesian stuff? I don't buy and ship stuff for people, having gotten burned once. I'd say, try establishing an account on Shoppee and contacting the seller via their in-app chat.

Incidentally, Kokutaku is now selling Old Man Huang's rubber - available on AliExpress. I posted about it elsewhere.

Iskandar