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Not sure which version Spin Pips tested. My no.1 LP too. It came recommended by MNNB (a renowned forum member here ) and like Spin Pips I was inspired by GeblockTT's videos on this LP when I swtiched to LP a good few years ago.
A very good LP which suits me well for mainly blocking and hitting and occasional chopping when forced back. Good control too as not very fast.
Version I use: http://www.eacheng.net/Bomb-Talent-Topsheet-p11693.html
Good luck!

hello , this one i use

https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/Bomb-Tal ... 45837.html

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Blade: Kokutaku Blutenkirsche Ice&Fire (Combi)
FH: Yasaka Rakza 7
BH: Dr. Neubauer Desperado 2

Thanks.... I'll get this one...

Very curious to hear from anyone who has tried the Bomb Talent OX with the ABS ball. How does it compare to other LPs you've tried as far as passive blocking, active blocking, chopping, attacking and spin-sensitivity? Thanks.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

I did try BT last summer.It really works with the ABS ball.I really liked it,however,It got me in the middle of testing anti and Tm so I put off revisiting it .

I recall having good control on passive blocking -reversal is there , I think it depends on the kind of blade you have and the combination with the inverted -

Chopping -run of the mill kind-, attacking sends nice low trajectory balls ,.... BT is on my list to revisit again as massive reversal is a thing of the past and using the pips to prepare the fh attack is becoming more necessary nowadays .

Also, it is inexpensive and for what the expensive long pips offer, the classical lps seem to work just as well or even better .

For example my Globe 979 ox is starting to lose more and more friction and it is working great with the new ball.Even cheaper than BT.With the new regulations any new LP in the market will be just hype.

I really like BT. Primarily used BT and 388D-1 for about two years before TM came out. I have to try it on one of my Grubba blades.

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My whole set-up costs less than a sheet of Butterfly Dignics

My two pennies: Apart from a slight loss in reversal, still an effective and very good jack of all trades LP even with the plastic balls.

Tried BT OX yesterday for the first time in many years. Seemed promising. Great for attacking, great dampening, decent chopping, lots of funk on everything, and I didn't notice any particular sensitivity to underspin. Its attacking ability was very helpful when I was playing an OX blocker about my own level who was using Grass D.techs. The one thing I didn't really get to test was spin reversal because the only guy I played who could loop was around 1700-1800, so he couldn't really generate the kind of spin/pace that would present a true test. Will hopefully have the opportunity to try it against a greater variety of players tomorrow.

But this raises this question for me: why have others gone away from this rubber ... or is it just that there were better options with the old ball?

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

1. The original Grass D-Tecs was considered the best with the old ball
2. BT is better against plastic than it was against celluloid

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My whole set-up costs less than a sheet of Butterfly Dignics

That's what I assumed, thanks.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

I cannot thank MNNB enough for recommending BT - a LP I very much enjoy playing with (though even on a casual basis) that has exceeded all playing expectations and performance (for me at least) pre and post plastic ball era.Thanks once again MNNB

Had a chance to use the BT with a variety of players today. My only issue with it so far is sensitivity to no-spin. The Elite Long I'm using doesn't have that issue. Will test a bit more tomorrow.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

Tried BT again, and yeah, can confirm that I'm finding it too vulnerable to no-spin. Ironically, I'm also finding it to be too sensitive to sidespin. Maybe there's something amiss in how I'm using it, but I don't have these issues with Elite Long, Death Metal or Troublemaker.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX

What do you mean by too vulnerable?... you send balls out? your blocks are ineffective? .... doesn't the ball have a low trajectory?

Good question. I guess I'd say several things.

Normally, if get a no-spin ball, a bit of grazing with my pips helps gain control over it. So, on contact with my pips against no-spin, I'll usually graze a bit sideways or a bit up or a bit down. All of these generally work, depending on what effect you want to achieve. With Bomb Talent, however, I found many no-spin balls sailing (and, less often, going into the net). I'm not sure what the reason is (that the pips have smooth tips?), but I'd have to be far more careful than usual about timing and blade angle to deal with no-spin effectively.

As for blocks, I don't do passive blocks against no-spin balls (and with BT, those would DEFINITELY sail long), but against topspin, I'm finding that you also have to be more precise than with Troublemaker or Death Metal in blade placement, especially against fast loop-drives. A bit of wrist action/chop-blocking helps here, and that's fine, but it means more errors than I like. As for the trajectory of the ball, it's low but not as low as some others (again, Elite Long but especially Troublemaker and Death Metal have a lower trajectory in my view).

BT does create some welcome weirdness that generates errors on my opponents' part, but I think it requires lots of training to play effectively.

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I. Re-Impact Tachi Plus 2019; FH: Nittaku FastArc G-1 1.4mm; BH: Saviga 77 Monster OX
II. Re-Impact Turbo; FH: Spinlord Sandwind 1.5mm; BH: DMS Kamikaze OX
III. Re-Impact Smart; FH: TSP Spinpips RED 2.1mm; BH: Dr. Neubauer Gangster OX
IV. Sauer & Troger Firestarter; FH: Spinlord Waran 1.8mm; BH: Giant Dragon Snowflake OX