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I keep reading in case of DMS's frictionless antis that the lower the thickness, the higher the reversal, the disruption and speed is, while with the higher thickness the lower they are.

The higher thicknesses are slower, but do they really have lower reversal? If so, is it because of the higher dampening effect?

Would a 1.5 mm instead of a 1.2 mm have worse wobbling and funky balls or it depends on the technique?

If you have experience with different thicknesses of DMS flantis, I am glad to hear them!

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I have no (absolutely zero) experience with varying sponge thickness for anti, but in theory ... :

It makes sense that thicker sponge increases both ball-rubber contact time and contact area. Short contact from small surface area allows slight adjustment of the incoming spin, but not so much as to be considered "imparting own spin". When the rubber "grabs" the ball more, the outgoing spin is more "imparted". I.e. the spin is more what the opponent expects based on your stroke movement.


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The first answer is not even concerned with the questions I have asked.

The second answer is rather for the inverted rubbers. I know that the higher the thickness the higher speed and presumably spin you can generate, if we do not consider the aforementioned first answer. I am curious about how does this work in the case of flantis.

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GregorTT425 wrote:
The first answer is not even concerned with the questions I have asked.

The second answer is rather for the inverted rubbers. I know that the higher the thickness the higher speed and presumably spin you can generate, if we do not consider the aforementioned first answer. I am curious about how does this work in the case of flantis.


You can apply his answer to Glanti but it will be somehow "reversed". In theory, Higher thickness = more dwell time, therefore more spin reduction. The longer the ball stays on the topsheet, the flatter the ball will be. Less thickness = less dwell time, spin is preserved at a higher degree, therefore more spin reversal.

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Understood. I guess that could be applied for the other flantis, too.

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I have tested every Dr. Neubauer GlAnti and the general trend always was that thicker sponge gives less reversal. But thicker sponge also provided more control and was slower so some balance sometimes had to be found for what works best.

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No frictionless LP any longer, No reversal any more,

" SKIDDING EFFECT" is more relevant definition here than a reversal, considering the ball keeps rotation in one same directon. You cant get skidding balls now, since all the frictionless LPs got banned once and for all. On the sunny side, you can get "dead balls" a lot, those with minimum amount of spin. Reversal effect with LP is indeed a pipe dream, tale story. Yes, the dead balls is some godsend.


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igorponger wrote:
No frictionless LP any longer, No reversal any more,

" SKIDDING EFFECT" is more relevant definition here than a reversal...

Did you notice this is in the anti spin rubbers section? This means that your information on LP is not relevant!

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When ever has Igor posted anything relevant? :lol:

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