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That's what I'm trying. I practice as much as possible and I feel I'm starting to get some progess.

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"Spin is my only way, haven't got else to say. Have you checked your anti? Let it all for you untie!"

Blade: Dr. Neubauer Matador (flared handle, 7-ply, allwood, OFF-)
Forehand Rubber: Butterfly Dignics09C (2.1 mm, black, hybrid)
Backhand Rubber: Der Materialspezialist Scandal (1.2 mm, red, frictionless)
Playing Style: Modern Defender

After 2 trainning sessions I could say that ABS3 with 1.0 yellow sponge is what i wanted except the reversal. The spin reversal didn't increase too much, just a bit. I will try also Scandal 0.9. The choise will be between these two: Scandal 0.9 and ABS 3 , 1.0 yellow sponge.

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Stiga Cyber-shape carbon CWT 6g
BH - DMS Scandal 1.2 - RED
FH- Tenergy 05 Hard - 2.1- BLACK

Hello!

How was the Scandal 0.9 for you on the Cybershape Wood? I'm thinking of returning to it.

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"Spin is my only way, haven't got else to say. Have you checked your anti? Let it all for you untie!"

Blade: Dr. Neubauer Matador (flared handle, 7-ply, allwood, OFF-)
Forehand Rubber: Butterfly Dignics09C (2.1 mm, black, hybrid)
Backhand Rubber: Der Materialspezialist Scandal (1.2 mm, red, frictionless)
Playing Style: Modern Defender

It was a bit better than 1.2, but still too slow. But cybershape carbon is much better then wood: the feeling on Scandal is better and I win points much easier with my inverted rubber. I would not change back to wood, just for a bit of control.

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Stiga Cyber-shape carbon CWT 6g
BH - DMS Scandal 1.2 - RED
FH- Tenergy 05 Hard - 2.1- BLACK

How is the reversal and disruption on the wood on a 1-10 scale? Also, how much was it easier to create spin? What about throw angle? I'm thinking of changing back for more control, more feeling, higher throw and more flex for my topspins.

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"Spin is my only way, haven't got else to say. Have you checked your anti? Let it all for you untie!"

Blade: Dr. Neubauer Matador (flared handle, 7-ply, allwood, OFF-)
Forehand Rubber: Butterfly Dignics09C (2.1 mm, black, hybrid)
Backhand Rubber: Der Materialspezialist Scandal (1.2 mm, red, frictionless)
Playing Style: Modern Defender

Reversal and distruption are kind of the same, but you will break your arm pushing, Scandal on Cybershape wood is very very slow. For high throw, you could try Razka Z( not extra hard). At the beginning I thought also that I have lost control, but now i like much more the carbon version. In few sessions you'll have the same control as with wood version. CWT help also to change the throw: no weight is to play very close to the table(also, a lot of balls will land into the net) and 9g is to play far from the table. I play with 6g.

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Stiga Cyber-shape carbon CWT 6g
BH - DMS Scandal 1.2 - RED
FH- Tenergy 05 Hard - 2.1- BLACK

That's not a problem for me. I'm ready to have it slower to gain control. This 1,2 mm version is sometimes too fast with the Carbon version (but probably due to the lack of "soft-hand"). I actually tried the Rakza Z on the Wood, but experienced a fair shaire of ball slippage, as tack weared off quite quickly after I had started playing with it. The humidity and dust killed the grip and the throw angle was also quite flat. I wouldn't like to pay extra amount for the CWT, the standard one is perfect for me, it was actually.

With the Wood version, I have more feeling, more control and more spin. I've realized that dwell-time, thus spin is way more important for me, which I had sacrificed for increased spin-reversal. I'm reverting back to the Wood version by the end of this year. I'm going to get my spin, control and feeling back and maybe even the disruption stays the same. I attack with my flanti, maybe I'll lose speed, but I'll gain control, which is more important for me. Always have, always will.

The Carbon version wouldn't be so bad, but it lacks feeling, dwell and control for me. It is bouncy and hard to keep the ball on table at times, you need to be careful. I was stupid, 'cause I knew this blade is not for spinning, rather smashing, but still bought it. Expensive experiment and disappointment.

Thanks for the tips and information.

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"Spin is my only way, haven't got else to say. Have you checked your anti? Let it all for you untie!"

Blade: Dr. Neubauer Matador (flared handle, 7-ply, allwood, OFF-)
Forehand Rubber: Butterfly Dignics09C (2.1 mm, black, hybrid)
Backhand Rubber: Der Materialspezialist Scandal (1.2 mm, red, frictionless)
Playing Style: Modern Defender

I saw that you changed back to cybershape wood, razka z and scandal 0.9. Have you played enough for a feedback?

For me, the current setup is perfect, i oscilate between Scandal 1.2 and 0.9, a bit more control vs a bit more distruption.

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Stiga Cyber-shape carbon CWT 6g
BH - DMS Scandal 1.2 - RED
FH- Tenergy 05 Hard - 2.1- BLACK

Hey! Thanks for writing!

That's right! I have changed back to the Wood version of the Cybershape. I have sufficient speed, decent control and good dwell (more spin on my balls than with Carbon version) while having a unique and stylish look. Much better stability and feel I get with the Wood version.
As for the Scandal, I'm using the thinnest version, 0.9 mm. I feel the 0.9 mm version has higher speed and better reversal/disruption than the 1.2 mm version, but a little lower control. It is actually still hard for me to get used to the extremely slick and gripless rubber. It is so different to play with than my grippy-tacky rubber on forehand. I'm glad I have gone back to the Wood version, as on the Carbon the 0.9 mm version would be unbelievably hard to control for me. This is not easy either, but it's fine. In exchange, I feel I get good reversal and disruption, but the decent players are able to adapt and play against it. What I also feel is that I can do anything with this rubber, blocking, pushing, chopping, sideswiping, pretty much everything. I'm still experimenting with it and trying to discover it fully. I'll write my further experiences at a later time.
The Rakza Z is also decent, good speed, decent spin and decent control. It is much easier to handle than Tenergy and much more effective.

How is it for you?

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"Spin is my only way, haven't got else to say. Have you checked your anti? Let it all for you untie!"

Blade: Dr. Neubauer Matador (flared handle, 7-ply, allwood, OFF-)
Forehand Rubber: Butterfly Dignics09C (2.1 mm, black, hybrid)
Backhand Rubber: Der Materialspezialist Scandal (1.2 mm, red, frictionless)
Playing Style: Modern Defender

I am very happy with my setup.
I have lost a bit of control changing from wood to carbon, but i win the points easier, because i have more speed and power.
The CWT system gave me the posibility to progress with my inverted gradually,( i played with 3g and now i play with 6g) and now, I could play from 3m far from the table or close to the table, I am not stick closed to the table anymore.
Regarding Scandal, I am very happy with it, and with cleaning potion from DMS, I still have decent reversal, after 2 months of playing.

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Stiga Cyber-shape carbon CWT 6g
BH - DMS Scandal 1.2 - RED
FH- Tenergy 05 Hard - 2.1- BLACK

That's good to hear! Keep me updated!

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"Spin is my only way, haven't got else to say. Have you checked your anti? Let it all for you untie!"

Blade: Dr. Neubauer Matador (flared handle, 7-ply, allwood, OFF-)
Forehand Rubber: Butterfly Dignics09C (2.1 mm, black, hybrid)
Backhand Rubber: Der Materialspezialist Scandal (1.2 mm, red, frictionless)
Playing Style: Modern Defender