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Mick isn't really folding and unfolding, as I explain in 2020 03. Please explain where/how you see momentum?

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You can play a small stroke with momentum from the elbow. I don't know any top player who hits the ball quite like Mickd does. If I did I would ignore it. Has nothing to do with being close to the table. It is just a general feeling for what the shot can do when the ball doesn't show up where you like it and how you like it.

On the forehand I didn't hate the stroke but I hated the bouncing all over the place. But since I have no footwork I decided to leave that to someone else.

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I see momentum as he is coming back into his "fold" and unfolding into the ball. It is more of an out and then in motion with his body, as he is trying to bring his torso back and then forward.

When I'm coaching I'm just happy to coach doing any movement with the body prior to the shot if they were not doing this before.

His body is going down, then up.

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Thank you very much.

Can you name any extremely elite players who uses the "His body is going down, then up" system on the bh?

Can you tell me a little more about this system? Just add one more thing?

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Sorry, most extremely elite players I watch run around the whole court and play forehands everywhere. When they try to play a backhand they often miss

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No problem re elite players.

But can you add to the backhand system? You are sitting at 55% of the way there already.

Everyone else can jump in too. I know Russ is still awake.

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Brett, I have no idea what you are trying to get from me After watching mickd's sideways video closely I noticed that a lot of his thrusting motion comes from knees/hips. I don't know if it is good or not in this particular context (quick backhand against topspin).

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Unless they're Harimoto. Or Ito. Those two have deadly backhands, and do much of their damage through backhands. I've seen them move to their forehand sides to use their backhands, sometimes.

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The backhand can be a potent weapon, especially at the elite level, no doubt. I just mostly watch players I kind of try to emulate (at least in my imagination).

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Almost all of the movement comes from the straightening of his knees. I teach that almost all of the momentum comes from the bending and straightening of the torso, and the knees play a minor role.

What am I trying to get from you? The rest of this stupid puzzle.

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What is exactly wrong with using a lot of knees on this shot?

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If you have everything the same as Mick, exactly nothing is wrong with bending and straightening the knees.

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IF anyone is notorious for have strong backhands close to the table, it has to be the Chinese national team women, right? So they should be playing backhands that are short and whippy mostly with the wrist like mickd and since they have perfect technique, they should be using their bodies appropriately right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxLxm4pzBQA

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imo, what you are trying to get at is that mickd's hip movement comes from straightening his knees. i.e. it's another way to generate the correct hip movement. is that right?