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Get five or six nets or edges in the first game and after each one say "Lucky meeeee" in a sing-song voice the way my old pal Kimphua Chuong did. Maybe he will go on tilt and you could steal another game before he calms down.

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Get five or six nets or edges in the first game and after each one say "Lucky meeeee" in a sing-song voice the way my old pal Kimphua Chuong did. Maybe he will go on tilt and you could steal another game before he calms down.


Now we are talking!

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Get five or six nets or edges in the first game and after each one say "Lucky meeeee" in a sing-song voice the way my old pal Kimphua Chuong did. Maybe he will go on tilt and you could steal another game before he calms down.


I'm going to give this a try against everyone I play

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Brett, did you try to serve short to his forehand and then loop heavy?


LOL, of course I did but there were 2 problems. The first was he pushed lots of half long balls and I was making too many outright errors. The second was I looped directly into his backhand too often and he made a bunch of backhand counterloops. On top of this, he made a few banana flick which I didn't enjoy. He did make quite a few outright errors against the serve, but not enough to consistently get me over the line.


Sorry this guy might be just a better player. He almost got a game off a real CNT player lol. And if you can't loop the half long return, it may not be a tactics problem.

But let's play along...

More side backspin, both regular and reverse to the short forehand. I think your backhand or punch serve is required here to go with your pendulum.

Loop the return to all three points on the table.

On his serve, you have to put the ball into the short forehand, but if you can't, don't spin hard into the backhand, just get the ball there preferably with sidespin. Only go into the backhand after going into the forehand (if you have that kind of quality/control).


Got it, thanks. I'll let you know when I start winning, btw

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Serve to his forehand, almost always short 70% of the time. Serve long to his shoulder 10% of the time and serve to his backhand short or long(wide) the other 20% of the time to keep him honest. Be in the ready position as your serve hits his side of the table. Keep the serve low on the short balls or the flick will come too fast and no counter will be possible. Attack the middle or wide backhand with your lefty forehand with quality. Be prepared to hit a few balls from block as he won't make many mistakes.

Return to the forehand short or backhand long. Attack half long/long serves but be ready to hit 4-5 balls in a rally. Get to the wide backhand with your forehand.

https://youtu.be/9SkcZJaTw4M?t=169 you can see him inching over to do a flick from the forehand side and gets caught. This is keeping them honest.

Welp that was fun :lol: . Probably just need to get your mistakes down by doing drills against the thing you were making mistakes on. Watch the video every minute or so while you do them to work out any mistakes until it looks right. I think you know a coach or two who could help with the technique.

Or give him Corona virus.


This is all good strategy in general.

I'm not recovering after my serve because I'm coaching too much. I serve over and over again for students to train against (including Sam) and zero recovery is being training into a real habit. I also tend to recover better when I'm winning because I freeze when I'm losing. ETTS06 is the relevant video

I need to attack all half long serves. If I'm not reaching out for the ball then the serve must be long, as per video LTT77. LTT77 is a serious video and I need to remember it. I'm sure I'm pushing and flicking half-long serves.

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I just imagined a team of forum members coaching Brett between games in a match against this guy, with Brett listening to the advice with a straight face.


This is going to happen. If I ever play a tournament, I'm going to go with a ttEDGE group zoom coaching strategy. I'll even do it in training games if the situation is right.

I need to get back to Asia and stop coaching first. When is that vaccine available?

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Equipment post:

I use a Nittaku Acoustic and I am happy with the way it plays. I wanted to have a spare blade and instead of buying an extra Acoustic, I asked SDC (he posts on TTDaily/MyTT and maybe elsewhere) to make a blade that is similar. According to some websites, the composition of the Acoustic is Limba-Limba-Tung-Limba-Limba (which may or may not be correct).

We had to work with two restrictions. SDC doesn't have access to Tung. In addition, the Acoustic medial ply is quite thick and SDC cannot source Limba plies with that thickness. After some discussion, we settled on Limba-Sycamore-Kiri-Sycamore-Limba. Kiri is supposed to be very similar to Tung. SDC thought that the medial ply of the Acoustic is 0.7mm and we opted for a 0.65mm Sycamore (which is harder) one to get a similar feeling.

These are the specs

Composition: Limba / Sycamore / Kiri / Sycamore / Limba
Weight: 86.1g
Thickness: 5.6mm
Freq.: 1205 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)

I have been playing with it for a week. It looks amazing and most importantly, it plays very similarly to the Acoustic. In addition, I am happy with using Big Dipper on my FH, which Brett recommended. Here are some random points from practice last week.

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Dive or shove?



Blue Steel or Le Tigre?

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Dive or shove?



It's a bit of a hybrid, but I'm leaning towards dive. The last one was definitely a dive.

I have labeled this backhand "this area" on the newly made "shove dive chart".

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Equipment post:

I use a Nittaku Acoustic and I am happy with the way it plays. I wanted to have a spare blade and instead of buying an extra Acoustic, I asked SDC (he posts on TTDaily/MyTT and maybe elsewhere) to make a blade that is similar. According to some websites, the composition of the Acoustic is Limba-Limba-Tung-Limba-Limba (which may or may not be correct).

We had to work with two restrictions. SDC doesn't have access to Tung. In addition, the Acoustic medial ply is quite thick and SDC cannot source Limba plies with that thickness. After some discussion, we settled on Limba-Sycamore-Kiri-Sycamore-Limba. Kiri is supposed to be very similar to Tung. SDC thought that the medial ply of the Acoustic is 0.7mm and we opted for a 0.65mm Sycamore (which is harder) one to get a similar feeling.

These are the specs

Composition: Limba / Sycamore / Kiri / Sycamore / Limba
Weight: 86.1g
Thickness: 5.6mm
Freq.: 1205 Hz
Balance: 2.7cm (Low)

I have been playing with it for a week. It looks amazing and most importantly, it plays very similarly to the Acoustic. In addition, I am happy with using Big Dipper on my FH, which Brett recommended. Here are some random points from practice last week.

https://youtu.be/TueIlWhTNBw


You are officially an EJ and a much improved tt player!

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Brett Clarke wrote:
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Dive or shove?



It's a bit of a hybrid, but I'm leaning towards dive. The last one was definitely a dive.

I have labeled this backhand "this area" on the newly made "shove dive chart".

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I've been thinking this for a long time! Glad to see it. When I saw it I thought the same thing. I feel like a lot of people have a combination of the dive and shove. Simply put, the shove seems to generate power from the unfolding and the dive seems to generate power from the straightening of the legs. And in general, the closer you are to the table, the more effective the dive is. But a lot of people do use a combination of the two mechanics. So when talking about backhands, having that scale is really useful!
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You are officially an EJ and a much improved tt player!


lol and thanks...heavily influenced by joining ttEDGE and this thread

frankly, i know very little about equipment and i just copied what SDC wrote in his emails. btw, i plan to test Yinhe Mercury II on my BH -- it's hard to believe that you can get a decent rubber for 6 bucks. do you recommend the soft or medium version? is it fast enough if i don't boost it with baby oil?
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Brett Clarke wrote:
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Dive or shove?



It's a bit of a hybrid, but I'm leaning towards dive. The last one was definitely a dive.

I have labeled this backhand "this area" on the newly made "shove dive chart".

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Interesting. To me it looks like his body movement is very subtle (compared to ML or FZD) and his shot appears to be very arm-driven.

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Dr.Pivot wrote:
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Dr.Pivot wrote:
Dive or shove?



It's a bit of a hybrid, but I'm leaning towards dive. The last one was definitely a dive.

I have labeled this backhand "this area" on the newly made "shove dive chart".

Attachment:
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Interesting. To me it looks like his body movement is very subtle (compared to ML or FZD) and his shot appears to be very arm-driven.


Don't underestimate the power of the legs and glutes. It's hard to see the engine in tt and, I believe, that's my edge.

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